Casual vs Hardcore

[urtv]

doesnt matter if you are hardcore or not.i seen plenty of so called hardcore players in other mmo's all suck and die to things they shouldnt have while casuals live.in the end it all comes down to skill

and i do agree that the amount of time you put in should reward the player with better gear but thats what korean mmo's are for

[Andrien]

To many words

But I'm right. Console gamers and PC gamers play games like FPS, and Farmville over and over. Did you read the whole paragraph or just the sentence you bold?

I try to make things as simple as possible to understand in that statement I made earlier.

Two Key points you missed
The console fan base. = Large
Engaging content that will keep them playing. = Addicting challenges
Eventually take on "hardcore" challenges.

[Eekiki]

You can't just classify people into two camps.

Casual vs. Hardcore

Democrat vs. Republican

Shia vs. Sunni

Smackdown vs. Raw

The world is full of two groups with the same goals and differing opinions of how to achieve them.

[SynysterBlitz]

Oh geez, another one of these? This arguement has been going on for years!

Listen, kids. Not all of us are college undergrads working on fluff majors. If SE doesn't want to rely on mommies and daddies to pay for their snowflakes' subscriptions, they need to make the game accessible to people with steady jobs, independant disposable incomes, and, as a result, a limited amount of free time to play.

And don't try and tell me that you're taking 20 credit hours, study 40 hours and work 12 hours a week, and still find time to play XIV 10 hours a day. That's a flippin' lie and you know it.

So where do you fall then? Listen Gramps, people have spare time no matter what, I work 44 hrs a week, and I still am able to come home and play for 6-7 hrs, it all depends on how much time you actually want to spend on it. I am sure the people who have mommy and daddy paying for them are a small percentage base I am sure. Arrogant attitude >> that way.

[Chardrizard]

what a retarded arguments, nobody cares about casual or hardcores.

It's the bad/lazy players that really keeps whining at this forum, bla bla i can't do speedrun bla bla no people to do content with bla bla

[Doho]

doesnt matter if you are hardcore or not.i seen plenty of so called hardcore players in other mmo's all suck and die to things they shouldnt have while casuals live.in the end it all comes down to skill

and i do agree that the amount of time you put in should reward the player with better gear but thats what korean mmo's are for

I was going to say this, but I wasn't quite sure how to segue into it - but to the community I will say this. Don't confuse casual/hardcore with skilled/unskilled.

[Arcell]

But, the whole relic quest smells of "casual".

Casual Jimmy can get lucky and get stuff in a day, while hardcore Johnny couldn't get anything while spamming content in a week.

Likewise, by the exact same token, hardcore Johnny could get lucky and get stuff in a day, while casual Jimmy could be unlucky and get absolutely nothing. That argument doesn't really hold up well. It's lucky vs unlucky which is an entirely different issue in its own right.

[Eekiki]

Likewise, by the exact same token, hardcore Johnny could get lucky and get stuff in a day, while casual Jimmy could be unlucky and get absolutely nothing. That argument doesn't really hold up well. It's lucky vs unlucky which is an entirely different issue in its own right.

Why they gotta be Jimmy and Johnny? Why can't they be Jane and Jill?

[Teuciont]

So why don't we just have content for both?

[Limonconcon]

But, the whole relic quest smells of "casual".

Casual Jimmy can get lucky and get stuff in a day, while hardcore Johnny couldn't get anything while spamming content in a week.

Well but chances are that more hardcore johnny's will have relics then Casual Jimmys
This relic weapons feel more like AF weapons anyways... They shouldnt be that hard to get.