Relic Weapons for you? Curiosity

[Arkune]

Arkune, haven't they said that the Relic weapons will, in the future, have quests to upgrade them?

That leads to the conclusion that, whereas they might at patches 'dip' they are likely going to stay very potent.
(that said, i'd love if there were a handful of sidegrades)

well i have seen that, but for now i want to make sure, if i am not completely wrong, they talked about legendary weapons and not talked about relic weapons.

and i have to say, well we know the stats of the finished relic already and its not even 1 full dps more on these, can u remember on ff11 days were the relics really had a big different to all other weapons, not even 1 weapon could matched up with this weapon... lets take an example: bravura (WAR) relic was the best great axe in FF11 not even one +1 weapon could match up with this one, now lets see what is in ff14 the WAR relic (has strange stats) compared to garuda, i dont think it would worth to working my a.. off for not even 1 dps more xD! maybe its because the most relic stats sucks hard and that makes me think so... but i would love to get more informations about this ^^

[Skies]

I never played 11, in fact the other two MMOs i've played were RO (classic korean MMO, you'd learn to love the materia system compared to their cards) and CoH (equipment? what equipment?).

However whereas they might not have exactly a lot of +DPS they certainly have other attributes that can supplant that, Bravura itself has a very large +ATK, +Regen and reduces recast on your damage reflect move, all of which is probably better than +3~4 DPS

[Elexia]

In XI they eventually let you upgrade your Relic/Mythics/Empyrean/Stat based weapons due to level cap raising, so if they learned anything from their previous MMO, is that Trials of the Magian type system is needed in this game once we're to the point we have a few set of "legacy/relic" type weapons and instead of doing what other MMOs does and make them worthless after an update, let you upgrade them in a way of your choice depending on which trial you choose.

Also yes, fuck that card system from RO..my god was it amazing when you got that 0.1% card drop and had the equipment to actually support it, which was also another 0.1% drop.

[MicahZerrshia]

In XI they eventually let you upgrade your Relic/Mythics/Empyrean/Stat based weapons due to level cap raising, so if they learned anything from their previous MMO, is that Trials of the Magian type system is needed in this game once we're to the point we have a few set of "legacy/relic" type weapons and instead of doing what other MMOs does and make them worthless after an update, let you upgrade them in a way of your choice depending on which trial you choose.

Also yes, fuck that card system from RO..my god was it amazing when you got that 0.1% card drop and had the equipment to actually support it, which was also another 0.1% drop.

NO NO NO NO NO to anything even remotely close to trial of magians. If there is one thing I hated with a burning passion in ffxi it was trial of the magians. It was one of the main reasons I left ffxi. We think we have an insane and boring time sync now, have them add a system where we have to kill 300 nm (add about another 2k nm for that if you want to include the ones who drop pop ki), collect 1500 of another item from another slooooow add-on like vw and then another 200 items from another sloooow add-on

NO THANKS

[Elexia]

NO NO NO NO NO to anything even remotely close to trial of magians. If there is one thing I hated with a burning passion in ffxi it was trial of the magians. It was one of the main reasons I left ffxi. We think we have an insane and boring time sync now, have them add a system where we have to kill 300 nm (add about another 2k nm for that if you want to include the ones who drop pop ki),

Wait wait wait...when was this included? Because I could have sworn when I worked on my Redemption I never once had to kill 300 NMs lol. Misinformation :\

Also, the majority of the paths take so little work it's ridiclous. Even Empyrean weapons take a little work outside of the final trials designed to be a timesink. It takes 2 days if you're lazy to collect 50 items for stage 1 emp, and 75 items for stage 2 emp.

[Airget]

Wait wait wait...when was this included? Because I could have sworn when I worked on my Redemption I never once had to kill 300 NMs lol. Misinformation :\

Also, the majority of the paths take so little work it's ridiclous. Even Empyrean weapons take a little work outside of the final trials designed to be a timesink. It takes 2 days if you're lazy to collect 50 items for stage 1 emp, and 75 items for stage 2 emp.

Trial of the Magian lol, they added them for relic/mythics to and they have some pretty mind-numbing things you have to do for them such as killing x-dynamis boss 5 times, or collect x amount of weapon attestation and such. Granted with the changes to dynamis now being a once a day concept with pop items to spawn NMs, it is slightly less mind-numbing then when it was every 3 days.

[Elexia]

Trial of the Magian lol, they added them for relic/mythics to and they have some pretty mind-numbing things you have to do for them such as killing x-dynamis boss 5 times, or collect x amount of weapon attestation and such. Granted with the changes to dynamis now being a once a day concept with pop items to spawn NMs, it is slightly less mind-numbing then when it was every 3 days.

Yeah I was mostly confused about the 300 NMs xD since I upgraded everything to at least 95 before I took a break from XI lol. The only thing I honestly seen as a problem was the level 99 path and making it glow..which I don't think anyone honestly bothered with save some Japanese players or extremely bored individuals because Voidwatch was just..horribly executed.