Relic Weapon Material Synthesis

[Molly_Millions]

Flawless Obelisk: All Mining
Flawless Avenger: All Mining
Flawless Mailbreaker: All Mining
Flawless Rampage: All Mining
Flawless BLM one: All Mining
Flawless Sargna: 66% Mining 33% Botany
Flawless WHM: is the only one that is mixture of Botany/Mining/Alchemy/Mob Drops

while this is true, all of the completed weapons need either hypogryph leather or spruce lumber
1 needs leather, the other 6 need spruce lumber

[FlowerPower]

while this is true, all of the completed weapons need either hypogryph leather or spruce lumber
1 needs leather, the other 6 need spruce lumber

sure but completed HQ weapons dont mean shit :P

[Molly_Millions]

sure but completed HQ weapons dont mean shit :P

sure they do, they are easier to double meld.

[FlowerPower]

sure they do, they are easier to double meld.

Really? I didnt know that. Interesting.

[Krausus]

Really? I didnt know that. Interesting.

like a 5% increase but I hear the weapon is very difficult to HQ as in careful synth fails a lot.

[FlowerPower]

like a 5% increase but I hear the weapon is very difficult to HQ as in careful synth fails a lot.

well yea I don't think it invalidates my argument but its neat to know.

[Zdenka]

while this is true, all of the completed weapons need either hypogryph leather or spruce lumber
1 needs leather, the other 6 need spruce lumber

Still irrelevant because the only synth required to make a class weapon is the flawless one. You can complete the final synth with 100 durability remaining and garuntee its success 100%. If you could do it without HQing anything, class weapons would cost 60k gil. NQ Spruce lumber costs 400g on Durandal... theres no need to have a DoL leveled to get that since you don't need the HQ.

Making the final synth into a HQ is also very improbable. It takes 3 times the amount of HQ materials to start at 333 quality, and with it being a L59 synth it is very risky to attempt to get large quality gains. This means you have a high chance of blowing the synth up and only a marginal chance (10-50% depending on luck) of getting a HQ.

Furthermore its not even known yet if HQ double melds are even accepted by the NPC, and its likely they aren't because hey, this is SE programming.

If you happened to HQ one, they sell for roughly 3 times the amount of a NQ... sell the HQ buy 3 NQ's and you'd have a larger chance of the double happening 23% vs 45% (the chance of a 18% meld failing 3 times in a row is 55%, which means getting 1/3 of them to HQ is 45%)

In any means how the Relics are set up, its far more efficient to go for NQ's in nearly every aspect. A lot quicker, a lot less risk, a lot less total materials.

And then back to the point is that the main item, the only one that really matters, is composed of 85% mining materials across all 7 weapons. It doesn't bother me really, but I sympathize with Flower Power and understand her point that they should have possibly been more diverse in the key component to make these weapons.