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[Elexia]

Forumites: EVERY OTHER MMO HAS JUMP, UNREALISTIC IF CAN'T JUMP! WANT IMMERSION JUMP, GIVE US NOW!!!

Devs: But we've built a game where you don't need to jump.

Forumites: GIVE NOW OR /RAGEQUIT!!!

Devs: sigh... Ok, we got it working for 2.0. But please understand that it will not have an impact on gameplay. Its just for your immersion.

Forumites: WTF DEVS!?! WE GET JUMP AND IT NOT DO NOTHING??! MAKE IT HAVE REASON FOR JUMP!! GIVE US JUMP ZONE FOR MARIO ACTION GAMEPLAY, MAKE FOR BATTLE JUMPING!

Devs: orz, why do we even bother?

Pretty much..I remember very clearly people saying they're wrong that people won't complain if they get jump and all it ends up being is an animation/emote of some kind.

[CrystalWeapon]

Forumites: EVERY OTHER MMO HAS JUMP, UNREALISTIC IF CAN'T JUMP! WANT IMMERSION JUMP, GIVE US NOW!!!

Devs: But we've built a game where you don't need to jump.

Forumites: GIVE NOW OR /RAGEQUIT!!!

Devs: sigh... Ok, we got it working for 2.0. But please understand that it will not have an impact on gameplay. Its just for your immersion.

Forumites: WTF DEVS!?! WE GET JUMP AND IT NOT DO NOTHING??! MAKE IT HAVE REASON FOR JUMP!! GIVE US JUMP ZONE FOR MARIO ACTION GAMEPLAY, MAKE FOR BATTLE JUMPING!

Devs: orz, why do we even bother?

Pretty sure that's not how it went down. In fact when Yoshi looked at the results from the poll asking about jump he was shocked that so many people were against it. He said he personally liked it because jumping made it feel like you weren't glued to the ground.

It's not going to be in because it was what a majority wanted. It's going to be in place because the producer himself personally likes having the option. Give me a sec and I'll quote what was said on it.

Edit: Correction it wasn't in a poll. Had to do a bit of digging to find this old ass post.

Greetings everyone! FFXIV Producer/Director Yoshida has made some comments about "jumping" that we wanted to make sure you saw!

Hi everyone, this is Producer/Director Yoshida!

Thanks so much for the lively discussion in regards to jumping.
Since the points that we are currently reviewing in regards to jumping have caused a lot of confusion for the community, I’ll go ahead organize them there.

Jump review:
•One form of emotional expression
•Additional action-related expression during movement
•Able to get over small fences (This is not the main idea)
I believe that jumping as a form of expression, which allows the player to indicate the location of NPCs and also to inform others of meeting locations, will be able to be used in many subtle ways.
However comments such as "Aesthetically, the game will be ruined by everyone jumping around," and "It’s not FINAL FANTASY," and other comments were a bit unexpected, so I decided to add these types of comments into our discussion as well.

Though the idea of jumping was based on wanting to reduce the feeling of being tied to the ground, I will continue to evaluate whether or not this should be implemented by following along with your discussions and comments!

Map Collision Detection Adjustments:
•Being unable to descend ledges where it seems you can easily fall off
•Feeling of strangeness when you can't climb up a hill that looks to be easily climbable
We have received a lot of feedback pointing these things out from numerous players, but the task of relieving stress during character movement is currently being tested by development in the form of map collision detection adjustments.
If you can think about this separately from the jump implementation discussion it would really help a lot.

[Elexia]

Pretty sure that's not how it went down. In fact when Yoshi looked at the results from the poll asking about jump he was shocked that so many people were against it. He said he personally liked it because jumping made it feel like you weren't glued to the ground.

It's not going to be in because it was what a majority wanted. It's going to be in place because the producer himself personally likes having the option. Give me a sec and I'll quote what was said on it.

Yep, he also likes the concept of Skillchain and MB from FFXI (he actually said this for those of you who thinks he's ignoring this game) so I hope no one complains or is surprised if battle regimen ends up as a spirtual successor to it when it's reimplemented.

[Jokerz]

Forumites: EVERY OTHER MMO HAS JUMP, UNREALISTIC IF CAN'T JUMP! WANT IMMERSION JUMP, GIVE US NOW!!!

Devs: But we've built a game where you don't need to jump.

Forumites: GIVE NOW OR /RAGEQUIT!!!

Devs: sigh... Ok, we got it working for 2.0. But please understand that it will not have an impact on gameplay. Its just for your immersion.

Forumites: WTF DEVS!?! WE GET JUMP AND IT NOT DO NOTHING??! MAKE IT HAVE REASON FOR JUMP!! GIVE US JUMP ZONE FOR MARIO ACTION GAMEPLAY, MAKE FOR BATTLE JUMPING!

Devs: orz, why do we even bother?

I really can't wait till someone tries to "jump" over their first fence

[CrystalWeapon]

Yep, he also likes the concept of Skillchain and MB from FFXI (he actually said this for those of you who thinks he's ignoring this game) so I hope no one complains or is surprised if battle regimen ends up as a spirtual successor to it when it's reimplemented.

Believe it or not I have been playing xi since '04. I still do. In fact I'm on your server. Imagine that D: lol

I have no problem with xi's elements being incorporated into xiv. I just don't like the time sinks for the sake of time sinks in both games. If done correctly I think the battle regimen would be a nice addition. I loved sc'ing in xi, sadly no one does it anymore.

[Krausus]

being able to bunny hop around is more realistic than not being able to jump up or down a 1 foot cliff. Not having jump breaks my immersion.

[Zantetsuken]

being able to bunny hop around is more realistic than not being able to jump up or down a 1 foot cliff. Not having jump breaks my immersion.

That's another way of saying it....

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[Demacia]

Are you people for real?

It's JUST JUMPING. This 21 page thread exists because one guy is disgusted by the possibility of seeing characters jump around?

No words FFXIV forums. No words. That's not to say I believe this game NEEDS a jump command, but at the same time, why not?

[KoujiGeki]

being able to bunny hop around is more realistic than not being able to jump up or down a 1 foot cliff. Not having jump breaks my immersion.

it does? cause what other FF was there that you could jump in? did you call SquareSoft back in the day that your immersion was ruined?

[Onidemon]

See this is where you make no sense. Many MMOs lacked a jump feature or don't use it for anything so I don't see why this particular game nor players are the target of your hate.

I make no sense yet the ones in here hating on jump are pretty much all XI players. All the others played WOW and other mmos and obviously would not have been playing those games if they hated jump so bad and i'm sure none of them quit their MMOs to come to XIV just cuz it didn't have jump.

Sick of stupid nostalgia bullcrap requests. "Oh SE didnt make a XI sequel, i feel so betrayed and so hopeless after wasting 8 years of my life in a video game, so im gonna beg SE the continue my favorite game but with better graphics so i just dont feel like the past 8 years have been a big waste."


and your excuse of other mmo not having jump..... im sure you mean all kind of games that are not even worth mentioning or others that are not even in the same category as XIV and that have not been built to support the feature even if they wanted to. So your point is?