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    Exciting and demoralizing at same time. Why login to current game when everything will be better/easier in 2.0? For example, grinding on a craft to 50 in 1.xx seems like a waste of time and resources given 2.0s streamlined and stress-free (purportedly) design.

    Also, I am still a little concerned about the leveling content for 2.0. I think the masses aren't big fans of party grinding like us FFXI vets, and Leves weren't viewed favorably. How will people level? I think with the shift towards dynamic events like seen in Rift and included in GW2, party grinding and leve quests will be a tough sell to the general MMORPG community (which we need to attract some of to ensure the longevity of this game). I hope they either add some other mechanism for exping or do a really good job of building infrastructure (and tutorials) for helping novices setup parties and engage in levequests.

    Thoughts?
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  2. #42
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    There are no plans for using the jump for any elements of gameplay it’s just there for those that want to jump. You won’t be able to jump to avoid Ifrit’s attacks or anything.
    Funny thing is, we can actually do that now!

    But I guess jump is just a dumb gimmick/emote there to appease ppl.

    Having Ifrit, Garuda and Moogles wandering around large zones will be very interesting... Will you fight them were you find them? Or will they teleport players to a battlefield to fight?

    If we fight them in a large zone, these fights will likely be very different from what we see now.


    Quote Originally Posted by Gidonoidon_Sur View Post
    Exciting and demoralizing at same time. Why login to current game when everything will be better/easier in 2.0? For example, grinding on a craft to 50 in 1.xx seems like a waste of time and resources given 2.0s streamlined and stress-free (purportedly) design.

    Also, I am still a little concerned about the leveling content for 2.0. I think the masses aren't big fans of party grinding like us FFXI vets, and Leves weren't viewed favorably. How will people level? I think with the shift towards dynamic events like seen in Rift and included in GW2, party grinding and leve quests will be a tough sell to the general MMORPG community (which we need to attract some of to ensure the longevity of this game). I hope they either add some other mechanism for exping or do a really good job of building infrastructure (and tutorials) for helping novices setup parties and engage in levequests.

    Thoughts?
    Hopefully, we will see leves get an overhaul in 2.0, but even if they are only tweaked - I don't think newer players will have the same opinion of them that 1.xx players do.

    For my part, I hope we have leveling options that include killing large mobs with lots of HP (Great Buffalo, Morbols, Treants, etc). If they match the exp:time to our current chaining system, people will likely flock to the more interesting battles -- I know I will.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    But I guess jump is just a dumb gimmick/emote there to appease ppl.
    and that's why i've been cons about this. Jumping with a purpose = ok, jumping because i have 2 legs = no.
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    I never really considered that the game would be technically down for up to a month between 1.0 and 2.0! That's a little disheartening Good interview, otherwise.
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by neorei View Post
    I honestly think 2.0 is years into the future, either we'll teleport or pass out or something, a world just become like this without any explanation.
    my friend had a theory that we are merely using the echo, to play out our own pasts. meaning... we're like an echo within an echo. E C H O C E P T I O N
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    "Unbelievable wipes... indescribable failings. Whining, bitching, rage quitting - through an endless party find." - Doho, A Whole New Whorl

  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi View Post
    and that's why i've been cons about this. Jumping with a purpose = ok, jumping because i have 2 legs = no.
    Yeah, I was against it too...

    /lolimmersionjump

    Quote Originally Posted by Doho View Post
    my friend had a theory that we are merely using the echo, to play out our own pasts. meaning... we're like an echo within an echo. E C H O C E P T I O N

    Your friend might be a bit late on that one.


    But as a theory, it has some merits... However, depending on the amount of time that has passed between Dalamud's "impact" and the world of 2.0, it might have quite a few strange hiccups in the continuity vis-a-vis the existence of current NPCs in the 2.0 world (which will be a 99% certainty).

    The question is, how do we go from where we are now - to a world that is completely overturned and then built up again (over years) and still has not just us, but Merlwyb, Cid, Yda, Curious Gorge, etc.?

    It could be that Dalamud ends up hitting the planet in the past. Hey, maybe Dalamud is an echo itself... they have already established that this happened 50 years ago...

    eh, its for another thread.
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    For my part, I hope we have leveling options that include killing large mobs with lots of HP (Great Buffalo, Morbols, Treants, etc). If they match the exp:time to our current chaining system, people will likely flock to the more interesting battles -- I know I will.
    I totally agree. Sort of like BAMs from TERA. Same exp/per hour just bigger/stronger opponents that require some strategy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gahoo View Post
    Glad everyone is enjoying the new info. It's 3.5 hours later and we're up and getting ready for day 3. as for downtime frankly I was confused a bit also which is why we kept following up, but what is clear is that 1.x ends, beta begins, then there is some downtime (I got the sense it could be a month but they don't know of course) and then we see 2.0. They know it should be as sort as possible but also know launch must be smooth.
    Thanks Gahoo. I wonder if all of us will be able to test the beta since he said:

    GE: Do you have any ideas yet on how will people get into beta?

    Yoshida: We decided not to tie it directly to the legacy campaign, but we want to prioritize getting the current players that are playing now into beta.


    I'm legacy and played since day 1, I hope that guarantees I get into beta, I don't know what I'll do w/o my FFX|V Fix!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    Yeah, I was against it too...

    /lolimmersionjump
    I was thinking about something the other day. This isn't directed towards anyone, it's just funny - throwing some words out there lol. On the topic of jumping ruining immersion. Imagine, if you were say.. in a mall, in real life and everyone just started jumping and rolling around on the ground. At first you'd be like ok this is weird, but chances are you'd keep on walking and continue doing what you were doing. They're doing their own thing, spazzing out like morons. This is for the most part, not the end of the world.

    I want to believe that the average player isn't going to just stand in one spot and jump all day. I mean they might but.. who really cares? that's their experience. People run around in subligars and pumpkin hats on a daily basis, but nobody cries BLOODY IMMERSION RUINED.

    Oh and remember goobues? Yeah those guys. I gotta admit, goobues are goofy as hell. I for one thought they have their place in the game, but only as mobs, not mounts. Now that it's a couple of months down the road, I very rarely see people even using them. Most opt to just use their chocobo because it's just easier to see what's around your character.

    I guess, I'm saying all of this to say. Your immersion will ALWAYS be ruined, not because of jumping. But because you are playing with other individuals, with unique personalities and dispositions. So to haters of jump I say, hate on! and to lovers of jump, i say jump on! and maybe we can coexist in this crazy online world.. somehow.
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    "Unbelievable wipes... indescribable failings. Whining, bitching, rage quitting - through an endless party find." - Doho, A Whole New Whorl

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    To be fair, if that happened to me. I think I would slowly back towards the closest mall exit. Given that the mall is a metaphor for the game, I'm not entirely sure the analogy is apt.
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