Relic Weapon Revival (06/06/2012)

[Jynx]

Do this grind, enjoy it (somehow) but don't fucking excuse this bullshit as good game design.

Who said it was good design? I'm just stating you need to relax on the insulting of other people who don't mind it and may have fun in the process of doing it.

Calling people idiots and clowns is no way to present your point, just makes you look like a jerk.

Don't pull out fallicies like people are "Wasting their time" on a game designed to waste time it's hillarious. In your context just because the relic weapons will take a while to get (That's up for debate if they change anything or not during this update) One part of it actually does have visible progress (The seals) while we are currently unaware of how poor the seal drop-rate will be on level 3 (If they include it)

Your jumping to all sorts of conclusions without all the information and making an ass our of yourself by insulting members of the community who are doing the exact same thing as you. Speculating.

So I reiterate, relax on the insults we understand you think the system is bad as it stands that's all you need to say. Just because people don't agree with you doesn't make them any less right/wrong/smart/dumb than you are. Who cares if someone else thinks it's good game design? Hell I think jumping is a useless feature but I don't call people morons for thinking otherwise...god damn wish people could try to get their point across on these forums without jumping allover other people.

[Zahak]

Maybe we will see pics of desirable drop and reward system in the 2.0 website after E3 :X

[Phrozen]

15-20% drop rate IS low. Expecially if you consider that since the party is made of 8, the real % of 1 member getting 1 seal is 1-2%

It's like trading 9 Darklight equips just for the pre-quest.
Because the % to get 1 seal in a party of 8 is the same as getting 1 dl/hdl piece.

So unless there is something in the new SH to get them faster, this is going to take 700+ hamlets (average).

no it's not. go do hamlet and figure out the drop rate before you start opening your mouth. drop rate is about 1/5 at worst but it's usually 1/3~4 runs as long as you get gold chest every time. we've gone 4/7 on a good day.

[Hayden]

I am fine with these weapons being long term if we are working towards it and not depending on a RNG system like dungeons. I want to know what I put in everyday is going towards something, not pulling a lever on a slot machine and hope for the best.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind the acquisition of these weapons taking a long time, in fact please make it take a wile. But ENGAGE my interest wile its happening. Send me on unique quests, make me locate fragments of said weapon from across the globe, explore the ancient ruins of *placeholdernameforsomeplacecool*, battle ancient dragons. Make this long hawl worth doing! Seriously I really want it to take a long time and in the end I can say "wow that was so amazing! What a rush! I can't believe how fun that was!"

THIS is what will make FFXIV 2.0 stand out and become an AMAZING GAME. NOT "do this event 500 times...oh but you have to do it well!"

I'd rather bust my ass to do something ONCE, fail a few times, but in the end feel acomplished for what I earned, not as someone already said "pull a lever on a slot machine..."

[Zumi]

One of the biggest problems people will run into is that they don't play with the same people over and over. Have to join shout groups due to friends quitting, their LSs being fairly inactive and overall having nobody to play with just due to the lack of people playing.

This requires 8 man group to even do. So if you join a pick up group your chance at getting a seal is fairly low you have to hope the seal drops to you.

[Jynx]

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind the acquisition of these weapons taking a long time, in fact please make it take a wile. But ENGAGE my interest wile its happening. Send me on unique quests, make me locate fragments of said weapon from across the globe, explore the ancient ruins of *placeholdernameforsomeplacecool*, battle ancient dragons.

You are aware we have no idea what the actually quest for the relic weapon is right?

We know the pre-requesits to get the quest but that's it. I'm hoping that it's just not "Sup you got all these items right? Here is your axe!"

[Hayden]

You are aware we have no idea what the actually quest for the relic weapon is right?

We know the pre-requesits to get the quest but that's it. I'm hoping that it's just not "Sup you got all these items right? Here is your axe!"

I am holding out hope that what follows will be engaging and everything I hope it will be. It is a little upsetting that the pre-req is tedious and in a way pointless. I only wish they would stay as far away form the "Slot Machine" number generator ploy. ya know?

[Nix]

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind the acquisition of these weapons taking a long time, in fact please make it take a wile. But ENGAGE my interest wile its happening. Send me on unique quests, make me locate fragments of said weapon from across the globe, explore the ancient ruins of *placeholdernameforsomeplacecool*, battle ancient dragons. Make this long hawl worth doing! Seriously I really want it to take a long time and in the end I can say "wow that was so amazing! What a rush! I can't believe how fun that was!"

THIS is what will make FFXIV 2.0 stand out and become an AMAZING GAME. NOT "do this event 500 times...oh but you have to do it well!"

I'd rather bust my ass to do something ONCE, fail a few times, but in the end feel acomplished for what I earned, not as someone already said "pull a lever on a slot machine..."

This!!! Absolutely!

I know I'll not get a relic weapon, the gods of random do not smile on me ever. . .

Doing Hamlet over and over and hoping that I get random drop 9 times doesn't really interest me (Though I totally do want some of those awesome DoL hatz!)
I would love long quest lines, hard fights (Kinda CoPish where you'd seriously bust a nut back in the old days trying to get through it). . . but you felt so accomplished at the end, when you reached Sea(pre nerfs) you basically had a little party with yourself though in XIVI don't feel that same level of accomplishment. Like when you hit a 50 craft it's not "OH EM GEE I'Z 50!" it's more like "Ok, grind over til I pick up next craft".

Don't get me wrong, I really do enjoy this game a lot and I'm so psyched to see where it's headed, but I wish there was more quest based gubbins and less grind your heart out gubbins doing this task 5k times♪

~Stay crunchy

[Zetsumei_Tsunarashi]

You are aware we have no idea what the actually quest for the relic weapon is right?

We know the pre-requesits to get the quest but that's it. I'm hoping that it's just not "Sup you got all these items right? Here is your axe!"

For all we know the next step could be, go get me a quintuple-melded astrolabe, for example.

[Nix]

For all we know the next step could be, go get me a quintuple-melded astrolabe, for example.

Don't give them any ideas!!
/steals your keyboard