Breaking down some of the screenshots

[bobbygunz]

This here is why only 1 good game per year now cuz of graphic whores.

When someone says they are "optimizing" the engine, then it suggests they are making it better. But actually they just took a shortcut and lowered all the texture resolutions and terrain mapping instead. I guess it just comes down to a clash of expectations. I had expected we'd still have the same quality of graphics as we do now, but with the ability to have dynamic shadows, and less copy-paste. Guess not!

In reality, there was no optimization. Just a shuffling around of features.

[Starlord]

When someone says they are "optimizing" the engine, then it suggests they are making it better. But actually they just took a shortcut and lowered all the texture resolutions and terrain mapping instead. I guess it just comes down to a clash of expectations. I had expected we'd still have the same quality of graphics as we do now, but with the ability to have dynamic shadows, and less copy-paste. Guess not!

In reality, there was no optimization. Just a shuffling around of features.

Optimizing the engine, to make it "run" better not "look" better major difference and they used Optimizing and Low-end computers in the same sentence mind you.

[bobbygunz]

Optimizing the engine, to make it "run" better not "look" better major difference and they used Optimizing and Low-end computers in the same sentence mind you.

If it ran better, then logic should dictate that means you could run it at higher settings for the same computing power. Lowering all the graphical detail seems like a pretty cheap shortcut to get it to run on lower end machines. I know Yoshi said the game would look different, I thought he meant different-better. Hopefully there is an option to increase certain graphical aspects of the game to get it to look more similar to FFXIV we have now if possible.

Man you dont even know everything yet, i am usually hastey and I want to point out the plant copy/paste but I decided this time I am going to wait until we have more.

AA is turned off, that is obvious. Also its running on a Laptop as far as interviews show (not sure if they were taken on Laptop but we dont know). Its also Alpha lol or even Pre-Alpha if you want that to be a thing. In a lot of games now you can turn off High Res textures, could just be that.

I dont think they will dumb it down, but more allow it to work differently.

It was same case with Job AF weapons, was pixelated all over cuse low AA + print screen looks awful.

I suppose I am going to wait until we have more information too, but Im just saying, from those screenshots it looks like graphics took a hit.

My advice too is that people shouldn't make the same mistakes they made pre-launch and excuse every little thing hoping it will magically resolve itself on release, though. Because we already learnt that the hard way.

[Starlord]

If it ran better, then logic should dictate that means you could run it at higher settings for the same computing power. Lowering all the graphical detail seems like a pretty cheap shortcut to get it to run on lower end machines. I know Yoshi said the game would look different, I thought he meant different-better. Hopefully there is an option to increase certain graphical aspects of the game to get it to look more similar to FFXIV we have now if possible.

Which is why I said to hold off and wait for additional info, we are getting Interview questions answered, and I'm sure one of those questions will relate to the Screenshot.

[bobbygunz]

Which is why I said to hold off and wait for additional info, we are getting Interview questions answered, and I'm sure one of those questions will relate to the Screenshot.

The question will be: "Wow Yoshi you are so awesome, how did you get so awesome? Can I marry you?"

That's all anyone ever says anymore, instead of being realistic.

[Starlord]

The question will be: "Wow Yoshi you are so awesome, how did you get so awesome? Can I marry you?"

That's all anyone ever says anymore, instead of being realistic.

Ugh, nevermind >.>.

[Firon]

If it ran better, then logic should dictate that means you could run it at higher settings for the same computing power. Lowering all the graphical detail seems like a pretty cheap shortcut to get it to run on lower end machines. I know Yoshi said the game would look different, I thought he meant different-better. Hopefully there is an option to increase certain graphical aspects of the game to get it to look more similar to FFXIV we have now if possible.

The internet is the one place you can look smart and you still fail....

[KiriA500]

When someone says they are "optimizing" the engine, then it suggests they are making it better. But actually they just took a shortcut and lowered all the texture resolutions and terrain mapping instead. I guess it just comes down to a clash of expectations. I had expected we'd still have the same quality of graphics as we do now, but with the ability to have dynamic shadows, and less copy-paste. Guess not!

In reality, there was no optimization. Just a shuffling around of features.

[Citation needed]

[Otaku]

When someone says they are "optimizing" the engine, then it suggests they are making it better. But actually they just took a shortcut and lowered all the texture resolutions and terrain mapping instead. I guess it just comes down to a clash of expectations. I had expected we'd still have the same quality of graphics as we do now, but with the ability to have dynamic shadows, and less copy-paste. Guess not!

In reality, there was no optimization. Just a shuffling around of features.

Starting to wonder if you just can't read, don't understand english or just chose to ignore/change what people say. "Optimized" means runs better, not looks better.
Everyone has said that the SS's are not from a final build.
I said 12 tree's but you chose to round it down to 5 saying that means there is still copy/paste as I was saying it means the opposite.
Maybe they will let people that don't want to switch over to 2.0 stay in the old build, then you can enjoy your graphics while we enjoy improved gameplay, areas and content.

[bobbygunz]

Starting to wonder if you just can't read, don't understand english or just chose to ignore/change what people say. "Optimized" means runs better, not looks better.
Everyone has said that the SS's are not from a final build.
I said 12 tree's but you chose to round it down to 5 saying that means there is still copy/paste as I was saying it means the opposite.
Maybe they will let people that don't want to switch over to 2.0 stay in the old build, then you can enjoy your graphics while we enjoy improved gameplay, areas and content.

But you realise that if it runs more efficiently, you don't expect a downgrade. You expect to be able to upgrade.

Anyways, if it's not a final build, good, but it's not like anyone can really say whether they will improve ground textures etc upon the final version, so that doesn't really make my observations any less valid. Since the fact is, lots of textures are lower res in those screenshots which is what I am fundamentally saying. So it could be indicative of what we can expect. No one can really say at this point. This is a forum to voice opinions, and sometimes those are concerns. Why can't someone be concerned that textures are reduced? Jeez... sorry for being alive. Omg. You people.

By the way, the issue of copy/paste in FFXIV usually refers to large portions of land being repasted, so in a screenshot, however many trees you count is sort of irrelevant, which is probably why I didn't really care about accurately quoting how many trees you took the time to count.

And yes, hopefully they let us customise graphics in such a way that we can at least get it to look the way we want it to, or thereabouts.