Breaking down some of the screenshots

[Starlord]

If it ran better, then logic should dictate that means you could run it at higher settings for the same computing power. Lowering all the graphical detail seems like a pretty cheap shortcut to get it to run on lower end machines. I know Yoshi said the game would look different, I thought he meant different-better. Hopefully there is an option to increase certain graphical aspects of the game to get it to look more similar to FFXIV we have now if possible.

Which is why I said to hold off and wait for additional info, we are getting Interview questions answered, and I'm sure one of those questions will relate to the Screenshot.

[bobbygunz]

Which is why I said to hold off and wait for additional info, we are getting Interview questions answered, and I'm sure one of those questions will relate to the Screenshot.

The question will be: "Wow Yoshi you are so awesome, how did you get so awesome? Can I marry you?"

That's all anyone ever says anymore, instead of being realistic.

[Airget]

Well obviously everyone's familiar with those images, and also the copy-pastedness of large segments of land in FFXIV, but it's certainly not a problem which is ever visible in screenshots. However, those badly normal-mapped ground textures and lack of aliasing is a problem which is visible even in screenshots.

And anyway, within each large segment in FFXIV you have to admit there is still variety. Thanalan is not a homogenous area, even though people like to say it is. It's pretty popular to say such things, but it's not actually correct. Thanalan is copy-pasted, but not ostensibly within an individual area. There is diversity in Thanalan, it's perhaps just spread out too far and also repeated on a large scale.

Someone mentioned that they counted 5 individual trees or something in a screenshot for 2.0. So it's not as if everything is unique in 2.0 either. There will always be repeated assets, things used over and over. Same thing is true for version 1.0, it's just that the landscapes are bigger, and their size makes them feel repetitive and boring. If for example, Thanalan was smaller and had no copy pasted chunks, what would the problem be?

All the maps in FFXIV at the moment are lcopy pasted, and it's a problem, but it's not as bad as everyone says. It's not a problem to the extent that everything about FFXIV's maps at the moment are bad. It's a large scale problem, but on a small scale (e.g., in your immediate surroundings) it's not, and the game still looks good.

From the screenshots for FFXIV 2.0, the reverse seems to be the the case. The issue is no longer copy paste, but lower quality graphics.

I guess I was just expected best of both worlds.



Hopefully. If high settings fixes the bad textures and suchlike, I definitely wouldn't complain anymore.

You're still here? Seriously if you want to talk about this can't you make a new topic about it. I'd rather see something interesting rather then some person spazzing out over every single pixel and polygon of a game that looks amazing. I can guess you didn't grow up in the 90's since you clearly have no appreciation for the art behind said graphics.

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So yea, you prolly didn't go up during a time when graphics were still maturing so the above's a little lesson as to why we are happy with what we see and why we see it as amazing graphics. We don't need to be wowed by the HD graphics, to us HD is nothing more then something that makes a game look nicer but does it do anything to improve the actual gameplay? But fine if you still want to argue your point just do it on another topic.

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Also how cute Bobby, is that your real character or are you just to afraid to use your real character. It's such an adorable idea that you happen to have 3 classes at 6 so when people check your ID and class levels it says 666.

[Starlord]

The question will be: "Wow Yoshi you are so awesome, how did you get so awesome? Can I marry you?"

That's all anyone ever says anymore, instead of being realistic.

Ugh, nevermind >.>.

[Firon]

If it ran better, then logic should dictate that means you could run it at higher settings for the same computing power. Lowering all the graphical detail seems like a pretty cheap shortcut to get it to run on lower end machines. I know Yoshi said the game would look different, I thought he meant different-better. Hopefully there is an option to increase certain graphical aspects of the game to get it to look more similar to FFXIV we have now if possible.

The internet is the one place you can look smart and you still fail....

[bobbygunz]

So yea, you prolly didn't go up during a time when graphics were still maturing so the above's a little lesson as to why we are happy with what we see and why we see it as amazing graphics. We don't need to be wowed by the HD graphics, to us HD is nothing more then something that makes a game look nicer but does it do anything to improve the actual gameplay? But fine if you still want to argue your point just do it on another topic.

Sorry, I forgot I was supposed to somehow comment on gameplay from a screenshot.

[Cendres]

I remember when this thread was about finding new and interesting things in the screenshots. Good times.

Thanks for ruining it. *thumbs up*

[KiriA500]

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I love you.

[Otaku]

When someone says they are "optimizing" the engine, then it suggests they are making it better. But actually they just took a shortcut and lowered all the texture resolutions and terrain mapping instead. I guess it just comes down to a clash of expectations. I had expected we'd still have the same quality of graphics as we do now, but with the ability to have dynamic shadows, and less copy-paste. Guess not!

In reality, there was no optimization. Just a shuffling around of features.

Starting to wonder if you just can't read, don't understand english or just chose to ignore/change what people say. "Optimized" means runs better, not looks better.
Everyone has said that the SS's are not from a final build.
I said 12 tree's but you chose to round it down to 5 saying that means there is still copy/paste as I was saying it means the opposite.
Maybe they will let people that don't want to switch over to 2.0 stay in the old build, then you can enjoy your graphics while we enjoy improved gameplay, areas and content.

[Raistlin]

bobb let me ask you something. Do you work to SE and you know that screenshots are with AA, and high rez?

if that not the case, why are you complaining about something you dont know what configuration is? i dont get it..

Is like i complain about this:



so tell me, why are you talking like they said these screenshots were taken with the best posible config?