Summoner Job and suggestions for Summonable Avatars

[Zetsumei_Tsunarashi]

I mentioned in another thread how in a lot of old school FFs, when you summon a primal,avatar,eidolon,w/e the summoner disappears off screen while the summon does their big move, and in some games (like FFX) you can actually control the summon like it was a party member, and tell it what skills to use etc.

I was thinking it would be cool for summoners in FFXIV if when the summoner summons something, your character disappears off the screen, and the summon appears instead, and you get a new set of skills on the action bar for controlling the summon.

Taking this concept one step further, since we can't summon the primals in the traditional sense, why not let us summon their "essence". Have it so that defeating a primal allows you to absorb some of their power which you can then "summon" to yourself whenver you please. Doing this would alter your character's appearance to make you look a little bit like the primals and you would gain their abilities.

So you would have things like "Ifrit form", "shiva form", "titan form" etc. and your actions would be different depending on which form you're in.

It's a pretty big departure from the mainstream ideology of what a summoner typically is, but I think it would be a pretty nice adaptation for an MMO.

And since I'm throwing ideas out there, I was thinking as a substitute for perpetuation cost, take away shards instead of mp. Every time you use a skill in primal form, take away one shard. It would make sense lore-wise, because the primals derive their power from the crystals. It would increase demand for shards, effectively turning them into a form of arrows.

[MartaDemireux]

I mentioned in another thread how in a lot of old school FFs, when you summon a primal,avatar,eidolon,w/e the summoner disappears off screen while the summon does their big move, and in some games (like FFX) you can actually control the summon like it was a party member, and tell it what skills to use etc.

I was thinking it would be cool for summoners in FFXIV if when the summoner summons something, your character disappears off the screen, and the summon appears instead, and you get a new set of skills on the action bar for controlling the summon.

Taking this concept one step further, since we can't summon the primals in the traditional sense, why not let us summon their "essence". Have it so that defeating a primal allows you to absorb some of their power which you can then "summon" to yourself whenver you please. Doing this would alter your character's appearance to make you look a little bit like the primals and you would gain their abilities.

So you would have things like "Ifrit form", "shiva form", "titan form" etc. and your actions would be different depending on which form you're in.

It's a pretty big departure from the mainstream ideology of what a summoner typically is, but I think it would be a pretty nice adaptation for an MMO.

And since I'm throwing ideas out there, I was thinking as a substitute for perpetuation cost, take away shards instead of mp. Every time you use a skill in primal form, take away one shard. It would make sense lore-wise, because the primals derive their power from the crystals. It would increase demand for shards, effectively turning them into a form of arrows.

But then it's no longer a pet class. People are gunning for Summoner as a pet class.

[Talon]

But then it's no longer a pet class. People are gunning for Summoner as a pet class.

I dont know if it was intentional or not but your comment about "People are gunning for Summoner..." I cant help but find it funny because of the idea I had about a gun slinging Summoner.

For those who are interested in the idea please refer to the following post on my take on summoner:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...pilation/page2

It's near the bottom~

[PSxpert2011]

For the love of all thats good the last thing we need are chibi forms of the primals. If I have to run around with a fat little garuda with a big head, big eyes and bubblegum hair I would fly to japan and slap the glasses off the dev who came up with that concept.

ROFL, Don't worry, I don't want that either, I take it back I TAKE IT BACK! XD

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I was thinking it would be cool for summoners in FFXIV if when the summoner summons something, your character disappears off the screen, and the summon appears instead, and you get a new set of skills on the action bar for controlling the summon.

Taking this concept one step further, since we can't summon the primals in the traditional sense, why not let us summon their "essence". ...

So you would have things like "Ifrit form", "shiva form", "titan form" etc. and your actions would be different depending on which form you're in.

It's a pretty big departure from the mainstream ideology of what a summoner typically is, but I think it would be a pretty nice adaptation for an MMO...

I think summoner does need a new twist or go back to its roots of the FF tradition to give it a quicker pace. It doesn't have to be 100% mage! Summoners have mystical ability, it shouldn't put them as a mage/pet class. I hope the DEVs break that trend from FFXI and give new life to a more versatile job. As a evoker/smn class/ job, you don't want to be in the back lines with the mages(who are suppose to nuke and heal at a safe distance). You want to be part of the action and deal damage and I hope the Devs are creative in making them act quick, cause damage and maybe go back to using their weapon(either a long delay range or two-hand high DD weapon).

[MartaDemireux]

I dont know if it was intentional or not but your comment about "People are gunning for Summoner..." I cant help but find it funny because of the idea I had about a gun slinging Summoner.

For those who are interested in the idea please refer to the following post on my take on summoner:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...pilation/page2

It's near the bottom~

Haha, pun not intended I assure you but funny occurrence though!