Summoner Job and suggestions for Summonable Avatars

[LuciBlack]

As long as SMN uses a Whip and maybe Shield ...its good in my book.

[PSxpert2011]

Ah, the famous Summoner job! A pet class for all those new to the FF franchise. That's the basic difference from a melee class and a magic class.

Summoners are suppose to be the ambassadors of guardians of the elements and the head power who wields it. By summoning the power of the guardians/ primal, they only wield a portion of their power based on the summoners skill/level. What if we turn this whole FFxi notion of what SMNs are about. What if there's more summons rather than the primals.

We need fresh new ideas based on FF, not reused ones. Anything from the FF universe should/ can be summoned. You just have to catch it within you grasp! Different from a Beast-master, you handle magic creatures of a higher status wielding magical powers.

I for one would still like to see Garuda summoned but as smaller form. As a designer, I would create a new image of Garuda special for the FFXIV community of summoners. It could be a younger version or chibi-Garuda. Chibi-Ifrit or Chibi-Moogle King..er, prince?? ...oh w/e,lol!

[Kalehon]

I want SMN to be able to summon primals too. Sure, they have to be special, but I don't want them to be "dragonball collecting" special, if you know what I mean...

[KoujiGeki]

since all the jobs and classes are limited to 15 moves how would they make evokers/summoners abilities. if they add the whole elemental Star thats 8 abilities right there and the abilities to attack, dismiss, retreat, if its like 11 summons a buffing ability and or a physical attack ws and a magic attack ws and astral flow? just for its class. what do you think would be the 5 abilities for Summoner.

[Kalehon]

Perhaps the pet commands, including the summoning power itself, can be on a special bar that comes with the class/job. Since they do not NEED to be skills, they can just be added to the UI. That's just my opinion, though =D

[MicahZerrshia]

I would create a new image of Garuda special for the FFXIV community of summoners. It could be a younger version or chibi-Garuda. Chibi-Ifrit or Chibi-Moogle King..er, prince?? ...oh w/e,lol!

For the love of all thats good the last thing we need are chibi forms of the primals. If I have to run around with a fat little garuda with a big head, big eyes and bubblegum hair I would fly to japan and slap the glasses off the dev who came up with that concept.

[Zetsumei_Tsunarashi]

I mentioned in another thread how in a lot of old school FFs, when you summon a primal,avatar,eidolon,w/e the summoner disappears off screen while the summon does their big move, and in some games (like FFX) you can actually control the summon like it was a party member, and tell it what skills to use etc.

I was thinking it would be cool for summoners in FFXIV if when the summoner summons something, your character disappears off the screen, and the summon appears instead, and you get a new set of skills on the action bar for controlling the summon.

Taking this concept one step further, since we can't summon the primals in the traditional sense, why not let us summon their "essence". Have it so that defeating a primal allows you to absorb some of their power which you can then "summon" to yourself whenver you please. Doing this would alter your character's appearance to make you look a little bit like the primals and you would gain their abilities.

So you would have things like "Ifrit form", "shiva form", "titan form" etc. and your actions would be different depending on which form you're in.

It's a pretty big departure from the mainstream ideology of what a summoner typically is, but I think it would be a pretty nice adaptation for an MMO.

And since I'm throwing ideas out there, I was thinking as a substitute for perpetuation cost, take away shards instead of mp. Every time you use a skill in primal form, take away one shard. It would make sense lore-wise, because the primals derive their power from the crystals. It would increase demand for shards, effectively turning them into a form of arrows.

[MartaDemireux]

I mentioned in another thread how in a lot of old school FFs, when you summon a primal,avatar,eidolon,w/e the summoner disappears off screen while the summon does their big move, and in some games (like FFX) you can actually control the summon like it was a party member, and tell it what skills to use etc.

I was thinking it would be cool for summoners in FFXIV if when the summoner summons something, your character disappears off the screen, and the summon appears instead, and you get a new set of skills on the action bar for controlling the summon.

Taking this concept one step further, since we can't summon the primals in the traditional sense, why not let us summon their "essence". Have it so that defeating a primal allows you to absorb some of their power which you can then "summon" to yourself whenver you please. Doing this would alter your character's appearance to make you look a little bit like the primals and you would gain their abilities.

So you would have things like "Ifrit form", "shiva form", "titan form" etc. and your actions would be different depending on which form you're in.

It's a pretty big departure from the mainstream ideology of what a summoner typically is, but I think it would be a pretty nice adaptation for an MMO.

And since I'm throwing ideas out there, I was thinking as a substitute for perpetuation cost, take away shards instead of mp. Every time you use a skill in primal form, take away one shard. It would make sense lore-wise, because the primals derive their power from the crystals. It would increase demand for shards, effectively turning them into a form of arrows.

But then it's no longer a pet class. People are gunning for Summoner as a pet class.

[Alaltus]

I think for ice they should make a completely New summon because shiva is the only ice summon outside the ivalice line and that has to be wrong. I dont care if its completely new or if they take inspiration from classic monsters/bosses from the ff series like they had done with atomos but i would really like to see some new faces in the summons we get access to instead of just rehashing the ffxi ones and such.

And i'll throw down my own line of summons i would like to see.

Fire = Cerberus
Water = Siren
Earth = Brothers
Lightning = Quezacoatl or even Hydra (ffiv)
Wind = Typhon
Ice = New summon
Light = Madeen

I'd also like to see summons like phoenix, mist dragon, ark(ffix) atomos and anima as summonable.

[Talon]

But then it's no longer a pet class. People are gunning for Summoner as a pet class.

I dont know if it was intentional or not but your comment about "People are gunning for Summoner..." I cant help but find it funny because of the idea I had about a gun slinging Summoner.

For those who are interested in the idea please refer to the following post on my take on summoner:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...pilation/page2

It's near the bottom~