Summoner Job and suggestions for Summonable Avatars

[Duuude007]

I was thinking how it could be done from an alternate angle.

Remember they had been considering Summoner to be the Job crystal for a beastmaster. Which means the possibility of tamed creatures becoming enhanced with elements, or even ascending to the role of Espers (alternate name for avatars). A series of quests to form unions with the spirits could be a fun way of doing this. Moreover, the primal summons would be considered something again only summoners can perform under very rare and special situations, in a ritual called a "High Summon", much like the limit attack of Yuna in FFX.

Im still theorycrafting here, but I was compiling a list of popular former elemental creatures that could form the basis for this kind of hierarchy. Many, obviously would never be accessable (I am thinking elder primals and Fiends), but their rewards can be powerful when defeated.

A list of ideas to sink your teeth into... (click to enlarge):


A few things: I know Bahamut is traditionally benign or neutral 'Lord of the Summons', but that doesn't mean it cannot have been corrupted somehow. As well as Dark Ixion from FFX being a pretty badass boss. I threw in a few more classic elemental beasts/dieties, but the list can use some work.

[Duuude007]

Thoughts?

Options that disinclude primals for summons

a. standard magic-based creatures enhanced when merged with elemental spirit
b. espers/avatars as a hybrid of creature and element
c. baby primals
d. something else?

[Skies]

Just need to chirp in here but.
It isn't overtly mentioned, however, a couple of NPCs in the game (most specifically one of them is outside Darkhold) mention that the Garleans are ALSO moving their army against the dragons that assault Ishgard, and the guy outside Darkhold ponders if that isn't because they fear that the dragons have a primal of their own.
I'm a firm believer that that's a Checkov Gun (means that "if it is mentioned, it will be used") and more than likely Bahamut will end up being the Dragon Primal.

[Kalehon]

I was thinking how it could be done from an alternate angle.

Remember they had been considering Summoner to be the Job crystal for a beastmaster. Which means the possibility of tamed creatures becoming enhanced with elements, or even ascending to the role of Espers (alternate name for avatars). A series of quests to form unions with the spirits could be a fun way of doing this. Moreover, the primal summons would be considered something again only summoners can perform under very rare and special situations, in a ritual called a "High Summon", much like the limit attack of Yuna in FFX.

Im still theorycrafting here, but I was compiling a list of popular former elemental creatures that could form the basis for this kind of hierarchy. Many, obviously would never be accessable (I am thinking elder primals and Fiends), but their rewards can be powerful when defeated.

A list of ideas to sink your teeth into... (click to enlarge):


A few things: I know Bahamut is traditionally benign or neutral 'Lord of the Summons', but that doesn't mean it cannot have been corrupted somehow. As well as Dark Ixion from FFX being a pretty badass boss. I threw in a few more classic elemental beasts/dieties, but the list can use some work.

Awesome idea! I hope they do this =D

[KoujiGeki]

Just need to chirp in here but.
It isn't overtly mentioned, however, a couple of NPCs in the game (most specifically one of them is outside Darkhold) mention that the Garleans are ALSO moving their army against the dragons that assault Ishgard, and the guy outside Darkhold ponders if that isn't because they fear that the dragons have a primal of their own.
I'm a firm believer that that's a Checkov Gun (means that "if it is mentioned, it will be used") and more than likely Bahamut will end up being the Dragon Primal.

Well actually the funny thing is that Bahamut is mention as the King of Dragons, which is true in MOST FFs, BUT there another thing to that there is a God to the Dragons which is Shinryu and in which he is always a harder fight that Bahamut (Not Counting 11 cause you can lol1shothim). Which he can be the Primal for the Dragons.

[KoujiGeki]

I was thinking how it could be done from an alternate angle.

Remember they had been considering Summoner to be the Job crystal for a beastmaster. Which means the possibility of tamed creatures becoming enhanced with elements, or even ascending to the role of Espers (alternate name for avatars). A series of quests to form unions with the spirits could be a fun way of doing this. Moreover, the primal summons would be considered something again only summoners can perform under very rare and special situations, in a ritual called a "High Summon", much like the limit attack of Yuna in FFX.

Im still theorycrafting here, but I was compiling a list of popular former elemental creatures that could form the basis for this kind of hierarchy. Many, obviously would never be accessable (I am thinking elder primals and Fiends), but their rewards can be powerful when defeated.

A list of ideas to sink your teeth into... (click to enlarge):


A few things: I know Bahamut is traditionally benign or neutral 'Lord of the Summons', but that doesn't mean it cannot have been corrupted somehow. As well as Dark Ixion from FFX being a pretty badass boss. I threw in a few more classic elemental beasts/dieties, but the list can use some work.

You know what, that be interesting if Summoner had a rank system, you start out as an evoker and build your self to High Summoner, like Evoker starts out with just animals like you have and going up your list as you grow.

I actually love that idea alot lol.

[KingBerry]

I was thinking how it could be done from an alternate angle.

Remember they had been considering Summoner to be the Job crystal for a beastmaster. Which means the possibility of tamed creatures becoming enhanced with elements, or even ascending to the role of Espers (alternate name for avatars). A series of quests to form unions with the spirits could be a fun way of doing this. Moreover, the primal summons would be considered something again only summoners can perform under very rare and special situations, in a ritual called a "High Summon", much like the limit attack of Yuna in FFX.

Im still theorycrafting here, but I was compiling a list of popular former elemental creatures that could form the basis for this kind of hierarchy. Many, obviously would never be accessable (I am thinking elder primals and Fiends), but their rewards can be powerful when defeated.

A list of ideas to sink your teeth into... (click to enlarge):


A few things: I know Bahamut is traditionally benign or neutral 'Lord of the Summons', but that doesn't mean it cannot have been corrupted somehow. As well as Dark Ixion from FFX being a pretty badass boss. I threw in a few more classic elemental beasts/dieties, but the list can use some work.

Man i like that idea you should make your own topic and put it as suggestion let SE hear you great idea.

[TenraiNagi]

I actually like the idea of Primals/ lesser summons because we get twice as much summons!

These are just some suggestions for the summoner (class/ job?):
1. Quest line to acquire every one of those lesser summons.
2. The epic move(s) should have their own quests (similar to job quests), that show the bond between you and your summon is getting stronger.

Others could be:
- 5 race specific summons (1 for each race, besides the other dozen shared ones)
- 3 grand company specific summons
- Summon limit break (guage that you fill up over time to do a super move, can't do it more than once per day/ couple of days)
- Summons having roles (melee dps-ers, casters, healers, buffers, debuffers)
- Summoning combos (No idea how..!! But would be cool!)
- Summon stones (you can carry 2-3 at any given time, the rest of them are in your house/ anywhere else. This is to avoid seeing all summoners with the same summons out)
- Certains summons could be mounts exclusive to summoners (only when you are a summoner you can mount them, works like the new chocobo buddy system?)

These are just some ideas I find interesting, and I hope you guys do too ^^