job balancing discussion (1.22a-hotfix)

[Nikkita]

The BRD change is indeed unneccesary. Light Shot is NOT auto attack it is a skill, it takes up a spot on my action bar. No other classes auto attack works like Light Shot. Arc/Brd does in fact have auto attack I punch it in the face, or the rear as it may be. If you want to give me a real auto attack with arrows and then give me a real skill on my action bar, so be it to the change, other wise leave my reset of my timer for my SKILL alone. This is a nerf no if's and's or but's about it.

[Req]

The BRD change is indeed unneccesary. Light Shot is NOT auto attack it is a skill, it takes up a spot on my action bar. No other classes auto attack works like Light Shot. Arc/Brd does in fact have auto attack I punch it in the face, or the rear as it may be. If you want to give me a real auto attack with arrows and then give me a real skill on my action bar, so be it to the change, other wise leave my reset of my timer for my SKILL alone. This is a nerf no if's and's or but's about it.

Seconding this. have no idea what square enix's mentality is with needing to balance the classes every damn patch. This has been a trend since ffxi and it needs to stop. What could their mentality possibly have been nerf archer and bard like this? Every other dd has auto attack that acts like light shot now will yes, but you also have to remember that every other DD class has high damage weapon skills. The only damaging weaponskill that is on par with say howling fist is quick nock and thats on a 3 minute cool down. Bloodletter gets an honorable mention but only if you stick the dot.

Make your classes and jobs fun to play, and stop shitting on the ones that already are.

[Wevlum]

Seconding this. have no idea what square enix's mentality is with needing to balance the classes every damn patch. This has been a trend since ffxi and it needs to stop. What could their mentality possibly have been nerf archer and bard like this? Every other dd has auto attack that acts like light shot now will yes, but you also have to remember that every other DD class has high damage weapon skills. The only damaging weaponskill that is on par with say howling fist is quick nock and thats on a 3 minute cool down. Bloodletter gets an honorable mention but only if you stick the dot.

Make your classes and jobs fun to play, and stop shitting on the ones that already are.

Yeah but bard also get the easiest combos. Other DD have to line up their combos and often have their combos completely screwed up by mobs moving or turning especially with current primal fights. It's really not a 'nerf', the only thing it does is account for the auto attack delay that other classes have...if you don't agree it taking up a skill slot then maybe petition for archer to actually have an autoattack like they have in alot of other games now.

EDIT; an autoattack that isn't an ass-tarded punch.

[Nikkita]

Yeah but bard also get the easiest combos. Other DD have to line up their combos and often have their combos completely screwed up by mobs moving or turning especially with current primal fights. It's really not a 'nerf', the only thing it does is account for the auto attack delay that other classes have...if you don't agree it taking up a skill slot then maybe petition for archer to actually have an autoattack like they have in alot of other games now.

EDIT; an autoattack that isn't an ass-tarded punch.

Easy combo's as long as you are able to maintaine distance. I find myself in situations all the time where I can't keep the necessary distance, ie running through AV, Princess in CC, Off and on during Mog..

You mention that your combo's get screwed up because the mob moves.. because that never happens to a Brd, it never moves in to close for various reasons...

But the point being really is Light Shot is a SKILL , it has it's own timer, I have auto attack I just don't get to use it. (not that I'd want to) As I said the change would be fine if I had a real auto attack and they gave me a real skill to replace it. They want to balance actually balance it by giving a real auto attack and a real skill