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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider-Dan View Post
    I'm still trying to figure out exactly what your claim is.

    Is it that best-DPS weapons don't always win in the current system? Given that you've repeatedly stated that you're using one of the best DPS weapons in the game, I don't see how you could possibly prove that with your testing.

    Is it that best-DMG weapons always won before? Garuda's didn't exist and there wasn't any ARC-centric content that relied on AA (LS) for the majority of damage output.


    The difference between you and I is that you claim to be backed by testing, yet steadfastly refuse to post any actual data to back you up. This is not proof of any kind.
    My point is that some people do in fact produce better numbers with Ifrit's Bow apparently. I've heard enough people with both bows say so to give it fair thought. Also I know how much of a difference I make between the 2 bows and its not a great difference.

    That being said, I have no intention of trying to convince you of anything, or anyone else for that matter. In fact I have repeatedly told you to test the 2 bows and make up your own mind. That's what I have done. This debate we're having here is just plain old fun for me in a way lol.

    The difference between you and I is that you haven't even so much as suggested that you've compared the Spine versus Ifrit's Bow yourself and come to the conclusion that the Spine wins due to DPS, whereas I have tested the two and come to the conclusion that it does even tho it requires more hands-on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    Also I know how much of a difference I make between the 2 bows and its not a great difference.

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    In fact I have repeatedly told you to test the 2 bows and make up your own mind. That's what I have done.

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    The difference between you and I is that you haven't even so much as suggested that you've compared the Spine versus Ifrit's Bow yourself and come to the conclusion that the Spine wins due to DPS, whereas I have tested the two and come to the conclusion that it does even tho it requires more hands-on.
    The reason why you don't hear me making claims about which bow does what is because I don't have the data to prove it. And without the data, you're just stating your personal opinion, not substantiated fact.

    Also: if your own "testing" shows that Garuda's wins (as you just said)... then what, exactly, are you arguing about? The higher DPS bow wins, exactly as I have been saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider-Dan View Post
    The reason why you don't hear me making claims about which bow does what is because I don't have the data to prove it. And without the data, you're just stating your personal opinion, not substantiated fact.

    Also: if your own "testing" shows that Garuda's wins (as you just said)... then what, exactly, are you arguing about? The higher DPS bow wins, exactly as I have been saying.
    /sigh........
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