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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Agreed, TVs just aren't the same as Computer Monitors. Dot Pitch is much worse, because they're designed to be viewed from much farther away. ie a 22" Monitor @ 1920x1080 vs a 32"+ TV @ 1920x1080. Same resolution, TV has larger pixels. They often have other things not optimal for PC gaming as well.

    I use a 30" @ 2560x1600, won't ever go back to something smaller unless I have to.

    yes if you have the same amount of pixels in 22" and 32" then the pixel need to be bigger to fill the 10" in the 32"

    just technical crap cheers

    about the 3 monitor thingy is it a good experience to play like that?

    personally playing from my sofa with controller on a 40" tv 1360ish resolution else its too tiny to read
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSeret View Post
    1about the 3 monitor thingy is it a good experience to play like that?
    I love it. it's especially rad in 3D
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSeret View Post
    yes if you have the same amount of pixels in 22" and 32" then the pixel need to be bigger to fill the 10" in the 32"

    just technical crap cheers

    about the 3 monitor thingy is it a good experience to play like that?

    personally playing from my sofa with controller on a 40" tv 1360ish resolution else its too tiny to read
    Well it's also that with TVs you typically sit farther away so the larger pixels aren't as noticeable. But without that "technical crap" we wouldn't have TVs and monitors and yeah.

    As for Eyefinity, and the nVidia counterpart for spanning monitors, while I like the technology, I prefer one larger display. The bezel thing would just annoy me, as would the way the system sets it up. I prefer to have multiple monitors for different things rather than span the game on all of them.

    That's the other problem with PC games on TVs. The text and such is designed to be read on a display near you, not far, like a TV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Well it's also that with TVs you typically sit farther away so the larger pixels aren't as noticeable. But without that "technical crap" we wouldn't have TVs and monitors and yeah.

    That's the other problem with PC games on TVs. The text and such is designed to be read on a display near you, not far, like a TV.
    The only real difference between a monitor and television is a TV has a built-in tuner, among other things right? I think a lot of what are you are stating is conjecture rather than actual experience.

    My TV is not designed for use with a computer. It has no VGA port. I use a DVI to HDMI cable. My TV also has overscan which crops off the top, bottom, and sides of the image. Fortunately I can compensate by adjusting the display settings on the computer.

    Screen real estate is not important within the game. At 2560x1440 you end up with an incredibly small interface. Since my TV has a native resolution of 1280x720 that's the resolution I run the game at (the resolution SE recommends). You then increase the "General Draw Quality" to 9 or 10 to improve overall appearance. GDQ at 9 or 10 will increase the quality of the DoF effect considerably.

    2560x1440
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    1280x720
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laraul View Post
    The only real difference between a monitor and television is a TV has a built-in tuner, among other things right? I think a lot of what are you are stating is conjecture rather than actual experience.

    My TV is not designed for use with a computer. It has no VGA port. I use a DVI to HDMI cable. My TV also has overscan which crops off the top, bottom, and sides of the image. Fortunately I can compensate by adjusting the display settings on the computer.

    Screen real estate is not important within the game. At 2560x1440 you end up with an incredibly small interface. Since my TV has a native resolution of 1280x720 that's the resolution I run the game at (the resolution SE recommends). You then increase the "General Draw Quality" to 9 or 10 to improve overall appearance. GDQ at 9 or 10 will increase the quality of the DoF effect considerably.

    2560x1440
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    1280x720
    More than just the tuner. TVs use higher Dot Pitch Panels because they are designed to be placed farther away. Also the distance you sit plays a part in how large you need the text to be to read it. Most of the time with a monitor on your desk, regardless of the size or resolution you will be able to read it. Not as much with a TV, often you have to up the text size if it's not close enough. Many TVs also have things in them, image enhancement and the like, that add input lag, which is not worth mentioning for XIV, but most certainly for other games.

    And, no, this isn't conjecture. All displays have an optimal viewing distance. Reading text on a given display, assuming eyesight is not an issue, also has a certain distance where it becomes an issue. And you're more likely to be in that distance with a Monitor than you are a TV. I know some people, the family I live with for example, have it at a distance where FFXIV @ 1080, the text would be nearly or completely unreadable.

    Yes, at the higher res you have a small interface, that's the point. Not all games are light on the UI like this one. An even with this one, I can keep the chat window the same "physical" size, ie not pixels, but same size if I was to measure it or something, but see much more information/chat.

    I use monitors, I like high resolution displays and do not like TVs for gaming. You don't have to agree, nothing wrong with that. But the things above are correct.
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