The integrity of the player base has fallen drastically.

[Zaaku]

Name one online game that has powerleveling available and yet no one utilizes it. Or better yet, name one online game that simply has no method of powerleveling. I'm serious. Out of all the online games I've played, every single one of them had some form of powerleveling available and it was widely used. If there's any game where it doesn't exist, I haven't heard of it.

FFXI had it in a form but because of how prolong the leveling process was. More strict EXP share rules, and the attitude of the community at large it was hardly ever used. They had to wait 2 hours in between PLing winfalls and required an extraordinary amount of effort to pull off correctly. It still happened but was such a massive pain in the ass almost no one bothered except Summoners. Who were the ONLY ones who could do the exploit.

In the end it may have gotten some people a few levels but the amount of effort, planning, and execution involved was so elaborate that just straight leveling was easier. Not to mention the Skill Up system. Even if you did PL you would be utterly worthless at cap since you wouldn't have the Accuracry of Attack to do anything.

[ChickNorris]

Power leveling is an exploit. Yoshi-p says different but, that's because he doesn't know how to "fix" the issue with this new claim system. So he is going to let it slide, at least till 2.0(I hope). As for the Garuda exploit, he should have ban everyone who did it, or at least put a suspension on their accounts.

Don't give me,"It doesn't hurt anyone" "it was their fault, not the players". Ya, well why do people get banned for duping things on other games? It's the same concept.

Actually they get banned for duping items that give them financial gain or some other similar advantage. Having a Garuda weapon doesn't do much more than -1 inventory and another choice to fight various things with. That is a a large difference between some weapon no one can use but me and if i dupe 1mil gil 500 times.

I am sure Yoshi knows how to fix the power level. He has said he likes people to catch up like the other poster put.

As for overall integrity of players and the game. We all have ideas of this, but there really are very few universal hard and fast rules that apply uniformly across the player base. What is okay with you is possibly not okay with me. So you leave the people who do not play as you do and play with those who do. As far as forcing someone to maintain your ideals, it will never happen. It is as foolish as imagining you can give permssion for an immoral act.

Bottom line, although there is unkindness of people who are brave because they are out of range and imagine that because someone is weak then they are strong sort of mentality...you chose your gaming experience and need to take responsibility. If you worry about global game solutions to the point where it is turning this into anxiety rather than entertainment, then change something. Your player group, your outlook, your input, etc. But take responsibility for how you feel and act accordingly. Should be having fun, or at least feeling good about what you are doing.

[Lurex]

The integrity of the player base has fallen drastically.

So has the player base.

[Pixi]

FFXI had it in a form but because of how prolong the leveling process was. More strict EXP share rules, and the attitude of the community at large it was hardly ever used. They had to wait 2 hours in between PLing winfalls and required an extraordinary amount of effort to pull off correctly. It still happened but was such a massive pain in the ass almost no one bothered except Summoners. Who were the ONLY ones who could do the exploit.

In the end it may have gotten some people a few levels but the amount of effort, planning, and execution involved was so elaborate that just straight leveling was easier. Not to mention the Skill Up system. Even if you did PL you would be utterly worthless at cap since you wouldn't have the Accuracry of Attack to do anything.

The SMN burns did massively boost the amount of exp/hr people could get via powerleveling, but it still existed before that. I started playing FFXI 6 years ago (and still play it), and when I started playing, almost every party I got invited to had a RDM or WHM PLing. Nowadays, it's Ground of Valor pages and Abyssea parties that power people up, making SMN burns look like child's play.

I haven't had a "traditional" exp party in years, and it's kind of sad, since I loved exp parties. I met some really good friends in those.

[NefarioCall]

that was well written OP.

[Fear]

Power leveling is an exploit. Yoshi-p says different but, that's because he doesn't know how to "fix" the issue with this new claim system. So he is going to let it slide, at least till 2.0(I hope). As for the Garuda exploit, he should have ban everyone who did it, or at least put a suspension on their accounts.

I'm sorry but IF he wanted to fix it you only have to change 1 thing to stop PLing.... Make it so your UNABLE to kill other peoples claimed monsters, thats all. Then no more PLing because of killing or pulling hordes and dropping the PT because neither would work.

It isn't that he doesn't know how its that he wants PLing to be in the game.

[Lamhirh]

Name one online game that has powerleveling available and yet no one utilizes it. Or better yet, name one online game that simply has no method of powerleveling. I'm serious. Out of all the online games I've played, every single one of them had some form of powerleveling available and it was widely used. If there's any game where it doesn't exist, I haven't heard of it.

EVE Online <_<. No powerleveling there.Absolutely no powerleveling there. You can buy some implants to increase leveling a little bit, but that still doesnt mater in short term :P.

[Leo_Hart]

EVE Online <_<. No powerleveling there.Absolutely no powerleveling there. You can buy some implants to increase leveling a little bit, but that still doesnt mater in short term :P.

not even cure outside party? <<< this consider PL also

[Elexia]

I'm sorry but IF he wanted to fix it you only have to change 1 thing to stop PLing.... Make it so your UNABLE to kill other peoples claimed monsters, thats all. Then no more PLing because of killing or pulling hordes and dropping the PT because neither would work.

It isn't that he doesn't know how its that he wants PLing to be in the game.

Actually, he even asked in the polls if people felt leveling was too easy/fast. If smart people said yes, it'll change, if people said no, well gotta face facts that low-mid level content will be worthless and this game will fail upon 2.0 because of people who hate dedicating time to an MMO.

[Lamhirh]

EVE system is special, as you gust get set number of skillpoints per second, and that is. no other way of getting them. Everything else is meant to give you income, or just something to do. to get a skill you just need to wait for it to train. So you cant powerlevel someone.

And beeing on topic of discussion. There is excellent article on MMORPG con about this;

http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cf...re/6045/page/1

A good read.