Do you want Dragoon to have a pet!? (poll)

[Alaltus]

I dont mind if dragoon gets a pet or not but i do want to see a dragoon job akin to freya armed with dragon magic and raining down spears/javelins during jumps. I wouldnt mind if they made the wyvern an adventuring fellow type pet like they are doing with chocobos in 2.0 only not tied to the job/class.

[carlosx]

finaly DRG made it as top DD on a online Final Fantasy and you guys want to gimped w/ pet again........

pls guys get over it.........

[Enfarious]

Interestingly, Enfaria, the Dragoon 'thing' that I saw ever since Lancer days was as the Melee AoE King, as well as burst crit damage but that's secondary.

Can't say for sure if that still holds true, i've been doing mostly Ifrit those days or using other classes since LNC is already 50.

Anytime I parse while I'm on DRG I'm out dps by wars mnks and of course blms, on war I out dps all the lnc/drgs in a party w/ me, and my mnk easily can hold w/ any drg I've parsed against. My numbers are certainly not the best since usually these are LS runs and our gear isn't all the pimpest, but that my own war and mnk can out parse my drg screams drg isn't what it's cracked up to be. It used to be a beast, and some would even say OPd but it lost half the abils that made it what it was, now it's just kind of a "I'm bored and like the way it looks" job.

[Enfarious]

finaly DRG made it as top DD on a online Final Fantasy and you guys want to gimped w/ pet again........

pls guys get over it.........

~2004/05 it was the most DD job in XI it got nerfed just like everything else did, it wasn't the pet that made it gimp, it was people not keeping their pet alive and people not parsing in the dmg delivered by pets. Not to mention that there was ALOT more to it than just dmg, but if you were FTing DRG in XI you already know how beast it was when /whm soloing mobs that checked as Tough and more.

[stanleyyoung]

Anytime I parse while I'm on DRG I'm out dps by wars mnks and of course blms, on war I out dps all the lnc/drgs in a party w/ me, and my mnk easily can hold w/ any drg I've parsed against. My numbers are certainly not the best since usually these are LS runs and our gear isn't all the pimpest, but that my own war and mnk can out parse my drg screams drg isn't what it's cracked up to be. It used to be a beast, and some would even say OPd but it lost half the abils that made it what it was, now it's just kind of a "I'm bored and like the way it looks" job.

problem i see with drg is that it should in no way have combos activtated from the front, seriously think, why would a dd wanna be in harms way especially one that can dd at mid range. drg has little survivability and little self heals plus SE designed them to be mid ranged, so why make them have combos were they are expossed and are in the line of fire! I can see lnc having the combos from the front since essentically classes are for more low man/solo so you will have the mob attacking you or your in front of it. But drg should be the guy doing dmg from sides and behind enemy since its a job and meant for more full team play. so a change to the combos alone would help drg do more dmg then war,mnk,etc.

Drg having a pet should not make it overpowered but have drg overall damage including the pets damage be higher then a war or mnk total damage. what i mean by this is have drg on par with war,mnk,etc total damage without the pet but the pet puts drg overtop because it does dmg/heals/breaths/etc. a way to do this is make the pet have no auto attack or gambit/etc set up meaning you have to micro manage the pet at the same time playing drg. if SE made the pet use some type of gambit system or whatever then drg will be OP due to the fact you yourself do damage/etc. while your pet does the same with you not controlling it whatsoever.

having to play drg and pet without gamits/etc would cause a player to do two things at once meaing you can use drg and focus completely on that and be on par with war,mnk,etc. or you can use drg & pet at same time and be ontop/ahead of war,mnk,etc. but you cant forget if you focus on pet too much then your drg lacks by sitting their so it will be a balance of using drg and pet at a time. So basically you use drg and the pet will sit thier until a command is given! with this drg will stand out from being a simple dd let alone an inferior dd like it is now also drg will requrie skill & experience to play thus making it unique and beneificary to a party when taken to its full potential!

If SE does add the pet to drg and allows players to have it on gambits, auto play etc then drg will be gimped and the worst thing with that is drg with pet combined will be on par with war,mnk,etc. So when the pet dies in which it will mostly likely pretty easily drg is already below war,mnk,etc. then we go back to having the debate why have drg in a party when by itself its below war,mnk,etc and when with the pet its on par. SE going with what i say drg should do, it will be already on par with war,mnk,etc so if the pet does die drg is not at an automatic disadvantage and if pet is alive players gotta balance between the two for full benefit from the job.

[Enfarious]

problem i see with drg is that it should in no way have combos activtated from the front, seriously think, why would a dd wanna be in harms way especially one that can dd at mid range. drg has little survivability and little self heals plus SE designed them to be mid ranged, so why make them have combos were they are expossed and are in the line of fire! I can see lnc having the combos from the front since essentically classes are for more low man/solo so you will have the mob attacking you or your in front of it. But drg should be the guy doing dmg from sides and behind enemy since its a job and meant for more full team play. so a change to the combos alone would help drg do more dmg then war,mnk,etc.

Drg having a pet should not make it overpowered but have drg overall damage including the pets damage be higher then a war or mnk total damage. what i mean by this is have drg on par with war,mnk,etc total damage without the pet but the pet puts drg overtop because it does dmg/heals/breaths/etc. a way to do this is make the pet have no auto attack or gambit/etc set up meaning you have to micro manage the pet at the same time playing drg. if SE made the pet use some type of gambit system or whatever then drg will be OP due to the fact you yourself do damage/etc. while your pet does the same with you not controlling it whatsoever.

having to play drg and pet without gamits/etc would cause a player to do two things at once meaing you can use drg and focus completely on that and be on par with war,mnk,etc. or you can use drg & pet at same time and be ontop/ahead of war,mnk,etc. but you cant forget if you focus on pet too much then your drg lacks by sitting their so it will be a balance of using drg and pet at a time. So basically you use drg and the pet will sit thier until a command is given! with this drg will stand out from being a simple dd let alone an inferior dd like it is now also drg will requrie skill & experience to play thus making it unique and beneificary to a party when taken to its full potential!

If SE does add the pet to drg and allows players to have it on gambits, auto play etc then drg will be gimped and the worst thing with that is drg with pet combined will be on par with war,mnk,etc. So when the pet dies in which it will mostly likely pretty easily drg is already below war,mnk,etc. then we go back to having the debate why have drg in a party when by itself its below war,mnk,etc and when with the pet its on par. SE going with what i say drg should do, it will be already on par with war,mnk,etc so if the pet does die drg is not at an automatic disadvantage and if pet is alive players gotta balance between the two for full benefit from the job.

Yeah sadly the way that jobs extend classes leaves you kind of stuck w/ the frontal combos, but having more effect from the sides/back would be nice, just a trait that increases acc/attk when on the side/back and/or @mid range ...

I like it. Perhaps going so far as to having your WSs open combos that your pet can run on instead of you, and ones it can open for you to work from.

I also still like the idea that w/o your pet you can operate @100% of your own potential being just as potent as WAR/MNK but when you summon your pet it draws some of your power to maintain your link to your pet, weakening your attacks but your pet would make up for it by providing extra abilities/dmg to offset your weakened state. Your pet would still have AA and would be able to use WS/Abils all it's own when commanded given DRG some healing/efeebling/enhancing abilities if/when it's pet is present also.

[Rokien]

I would love to see breath attacks ; ;

[Krausus]

It would only be a "crappy" pet class if the implementation sucked, which it did in XI and that's all anyone seems to want to think about. BST PUP and SMN all had very useful pets, DRG pet failed because the implementation failed, not cause it's a shitty class to have a pet.

Anyway I'm still not arguing whether it should or shouldn't, I don't really care all that much. I do however care about DRG having SOMETHING that makes it at least as desirable as all the other jobs currently are, you know except MNK and PLD which are ~DRG desirability. If those things come in the form of breath attacks that actually serve a purpose, or some other form of dragon blood magic, or w/e, right now the whole YAY I can jump thing isn't gettin it.

It's sad that I've hung up the 2 jobs I wanted to play most (DRG 1st MNK 2nd) to play WAR in most content, and the job I wanted to tank on, is often times the one that people say, "Eh could you NOT play that." If DRG had a pet that provided the extra umph to make it comparable to BLM/BRD/WAR whether that omph was in the form of debilitating breath attacks, or more dmg, or w/e. Or if DRG had some of it's own attacks that could do those things, makes no real difference to me in the grand scheme, I just want to be able to play what I want w/o people saying, "Do you mind NOT playing that it's pretty shitty."

let me rephrase. I would rather have dragon breaths/magic then be a very well made pet class. Its not that I care about a wyvern its that I dont want dragoon to be a pet class because I don't enjoy pet classes. Also dont know why people think DRG is so weak, its not but if you are comparing to AoE ability then you do get the impression. I guess i never looked at DRG and said I want to play that class for its AoE capabilities. If you compare BLM and DRG for single target DPS then you have to consider BLM is better because it doesn't have to worry about positioning for combos. If DRG didn't I'm willing to bet its damage would be comparable or better.

[Krausus]

problem i see with drg is that it should in no way have combos activtated from the front, seriously think, why would a dd wanna be in harms way especially one that can dd at mid range.

Solo play. And it isn't hard to avoid damage as a dragoon in group play to run in front to start your combo.

[syntaxlies]

I want to have a pet dog that i can use on any job. He can just follow me around, i dont care if he does anything.