Billing...

[Phenidate]

There really no point beside you want to be other race the level up with a friend thing they could easy add so you level down to your friend level there fix your problem....


Quote cut short, my reply is already approaching wall of text length~Phenidate

Leaving aside how long it took them too actually add anything like a rank down system in FFXI...

Speaking from my own desire here. I have played FFXI. I have also played many other MMOs, and am what is called an altoholic, it started in FFXI, and it drove me to WOW because of how SE handles it. Too be charged for wanting to play a different character or race; to me, it's ridiculous and a slap in the face for wanting to do it. I don't RP. It doesn't factor into my desire too play multiple characters. Any MMO you go to play, you'll find plenty of people like that.

That aside, I think this is getting to far off the topic of how billing itself is handled. The main reason it was brought up was because of how SE decides too split its billing.

Moving back to the mess that is billing right now, I'd remembered how they split up the billing charges needlessly.

They have the 'basic' service, which from what I can tell, earns me the right to let them charge me for the sake of charging me. I have to pay a smaller fee to have any character at all on the server.

These services fees should be combined into a single fee like any other MMO out there. FFXIV can be a unique flower in the MMO market, but here it should be standard like the rest.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

no one really had an issue paying the character fees

since you guys are so smart, did it every register that unlike other mmo which has a flat fee, ffxi and ffxiv are one of the only few mmo that lets you use all classes/job as 1 character. Most with flat time fees are 1 character 1 class. the reason I say this is due to most mmo with 1 character 1 clas, you end uo having to lvl up other character. So they don;t charge you for it. Where With ffxi/ffxiv you don't need to make a new character. most ppl made mules on ffxi which is why retainers are $1

Also correct me if I'm wrong, but there are 2 ways to set up crysta. CC or through a point card you can pick up at any gamestop or other places. This its like the ultimate gamer card or something?

I think you guys are complaining to complain. And the reason for multi accounts is for security.

[Chardrizard]

I think you guys are complaining to complain. And the reason for multi accounts is for security.

really now? i really have the urge to bash you right now, but i will give u benefit of doubt that u didnt read my post.

im reposting what i said so you can read

i find this issue to be irrating as well.. current billing system rejects every single of my credit card because this 3rd party bullshit doesnt have service at my region and doesnt accept crysta, i had to ask my friend to help me for payment with their credit card..

[BotenAnna]

That payment processor that escapes my mind now (the one that charges monthly) is incredibly shady from what I've heard, doing things like not letting people cancel MMOs because "they signed a contract" and requiring the player to block the payments with their bank--which the company will even contest sometimes. I haven't had too much issue getting Crysta what with the UltimateGameCards being easy to come by, but the billing system is still way overly complex, and the requiring payment for extra characters thing should be reconsidered.

[Phenidate]

That payment processor that escapes my mind now (the one that charges monthly) is incredibly shady from what I've heard, doing things like not letting people cancel MMOs because "they signed a contract" and requiring the player to block the payments with their bank--which the company will even contest sometimes. I haven't had too much issue getting Crysta what with the UltimateGameCards being easy to come by, but the billing system is still way overly complex, and the requiring payment for extra characters thing should be reconsidered.

They are called Click and Buy, and from what I've found they are extremely difficult to contact when anything goes wrong with their service.

You have a card that doesn't work with their system? Good luck finding one in your region that will then.
You canceled your account? You may find out you're still being charged. Good luck contacting them to stop.

Seriously, we had a billing system that worked with FFXI for YEARS and continues to work. Why can't we use that? There was no issue with Direct Pay.

[Zenaku]

Leaving aside how long it took them too actually add anything like a rank down system in FFXI...

Speaking from my own desire here. I have played FFXI. I have also played many other MMOs, and am what is called an altoholic, it started in FFXI, and it drove me to WOW because of how SE handles it. Too be charged for wanting to play a different character or race; to me, it's ridiculous and a slap in the face for wanting to do it. I don't RP. It doesn't factor into my desire too play multiple characters. Any MMO you go to play, you'll find plenty of people like that.

That aside, I think this is getting to far off the topic of how billing itself is handled. The main reason it was brought up was because of how SE decides too split its billing.

Moving back to the mess that is billing right now, I'd remembered how they split up the billing charges needlessly.

They have the 'basic' service, which from what I can tell, earns me the right to let them charge me for the sake of charging me. I have to pay a smaller fee to have any character at all on the server.

These services fees should be combined into a single fee like any other MMO out there. FFXIV can be a unique flower in the MMO market, but here it should be standard like the rest.

it's clear that you just want to play more then one Char then you should play wow or one of it's clone. FFXIV and FFXI is build around one Char level it up there no need to play other race if you can't pay 1 or the 3$ for it then play something else there not much you can do about that issue really.

The reason they using this billing because many players dislike the POL payment and want other way to pay for the game and now it seem we want just to pay them with CC then buying crysta and what not.

[Nephera]

APB had this issue and believe me thats one game you dont want to be sharing issues with.

[Zenaku]

Um. My account is Japanese, but we have the same Crysta system that needs to go through a credit card.

that what i heard the jp had other way to pay i never said it was there but i did hear this around the starting of FFXIV so i don't know if this was true or not. This is when FFXIV was not going to be a F2P and SE was about to bill everyone and they was getting mad about the click and buy. I hoping onces we have to pay again they give us other way to pay i dislike the click and buy to many step to set it up and cancel it.

[Phenidate]

that what i heard the jp had other way to pay i never said it was there but i did hear this around the starting of FFXIV so i don't know if this was true or not. This is when FFXIV was not going to be a F2P and SE was about to bill everyone and they was getting mad about the click and buy. I hoping onces we have to pay again they give us other way to pay i dislike the click and buy to many step to set it up and cancel it.

At least on the subject of Click and Buy and how they have the system set up we can agree on.

Bringing attention to it now and how difficult subscribers find it to use, understand or deal with. When they resume billing for the game, it will be that much harder to change the system.

If anything, I'm sure SE doesn't want a country they released this game to be unable to play; because the 3rd party guys handling the billing side are to incompetent to accept this regions payment methods.

Lets move back to how they did it in FFXI, or something else that's better than right now.

They can keep the Crysta thing. I see nothing wrong with alternatives to using a bank or credit card to pay. But Click and Pay or Buy or what ever needs to go.

[BelgianRofl]

Click2Buy is fucking dumb. I'm not signing up for that shit.

Square-Enix... Please listen.... You don't want to run your own credit card service?? Fine. Here's the solution:

https://checkout.google.com/sell/?gl=US&hl=en