Burst - Any Plans?

[Fated]

I don't think BLM itself is too powerful. However, it definitely is very easy to play compared to the other DDs. Also, it seems that BLM's primary stat has a higher (and much easier to reach) soft cap which is causing damage output to be higher than it should.

[fusional]

I don't think BLM itself is too powerful.

except it is, and it always will be as long as every fight is designed to be 5mins or less

[Zdenka]

OP needs to remember BLM is only limited by 2 things:

Threat
MP

A LS BLM averages 500 thunders and 990 Thundaras (crits included in average) on Garuda, and I'll assume 1500 Thundaga and 1700 Burst as above poster though I'm not sure exactly what they do on her since I play BRD.

That means if your tank is awesome and you only need to worry about MP . . .

Thunder is 2.5 Damage per MP
Thundara is ~2.8 damage per MP
Thundaga is ~2.9 damage per MP (forcing Crit)
Burst is 7.5 damage per MP (forcing Crit)

That is HUGE compared to the rest of BLM's spells, any quicker and it would be very OP. Honestly Burst is the 2nd most powerful 15 minute ability IMO (only because Benedictions range is fail, and no one uses PLD).

WAR, MNK, and DRG 15m are pretty fail.

Just because its a spell that "doesn't do a lot" doesn't mean it needs to be buffed. If it was buffed any at all it would be WAY too strong because its already strong compared to the other jobs 15m.

[Lamentor]

I don't know if it has been said, but referring to Burst in particular, try checking out the MP cost and cast time compared to Thundaga. Not to mention, the damage is as high or under certain circumstances, higher than Thundaga. I don't see any need for a fix to it, honestly. BLM is already one of the biggest power houses in this game. No need to break its 15 minute ability.

Edit: Looking at other posts, it's exactly the point I was trying to make. BLM's 15 minute is amazing.

[Alise]

I think all of the ability above are just weak for trump card.

Please add more AF skill when we do more of their quest later and give us much better skill with recast time 30 min next.

[Burrmanchu]

I am fine lol, Im sitting at work, drinking some hot coffee, listening to music, and having a good ole laugh at Draz. I have never done anything to you Draz besides leave Save Point, so seriously no idea why you're making it personal.. I have always been informative and willing to help you so please refrain from making this about me..

As the OP originally said, compared to OTHER 15min abilities, burst... well... Sucks. Period. No one said 15min abilities were "needed". No one asked about hOw GODZ uRs BLMz wUZ. It's just the truth.

It works. But isn't worth a 15min timer. I thought that was the whole complaint?... I was planning on reading the rest of this read hoping for better insight from people who obviously should agree, but now it's become a garbage storm. Also calling the OP a "troll" if f*&%ing hilarious and made no sense whatsoever. Trolling would be what then? I must be crazy because all this time I thought trolling was sitting at work stirring up sh!t over the internet without having a valid point? lol

Can we get a Poll on who'd rather have manafont?... Or basically anything useful without having to go red HP? BLM are twigs since WHM abil's were eliminated for the job to begin with...

[Daku_Naito]

As the OP originally said, compared to OTHER 15min abilities, burst... well... Sucks. Period. No one said 15min abilities were "needed". No one asked about hOw GODZ uRs BLMz wUZ. It's just the truth.

It works. But isn't worth a 15min timer. I thought that was the whole complaint?... I was planning on reading the rest of this read hoping for better insight from people who obviously should agree, but now it's become a garbage storm. Also calling the OP a "troll" if f*&%ing hilarious and made no sense whatsoever. Trolling would be what then? I must be crazy because all this time I thought trolling was sitting at work stirring up sh!t over the internet without having a valid point? lol

Can we get a Poll on who'd rather have manafont?... Or basically anything useful without having to go red HP? BLM are twigs since WHM abil's were eliminated for the job to begin with...

Let's go over the abilities once more.

Warrior
Mighty Strikes
Guarantees all attacks made with axes will be critical hits.

The best out of the Melee's 15 minute IMO, it is short, but makes a boss fight just that much quicker. Also, for a tank WAR, it gives a good amount of hate.

Paladin
Hallowed Ground
Makes you impervious to all physical attacks.

As WHM as my secondary, this is a great move for a PLD to have. It is very short, but can help a lot. But let's be honest, who is using PLD as a tank?

Dragoon
Dragonfire Dive
Delivers a jumping fire attack to target and enemies near it.

A joke of a 15 min. It looks cool, that's about it. It's usefulness is close to zero, DRGs use it just to use it as a quick but weak AOE.

Monk
Hundred Fists
Temporarily increases auto-attack speed.

Mid-tier, it can help to burn those bosses down quick.

Bard
Battle Voice
Increases maximum HP of all party members within range and enhances effect of all songs sung while active.

A great move, especially for boss fights. It gives the WHMs some leeway in certain situations, on top of increasing the other songs.

Black Mage
Burst
Deals lightning damage.

Damage, at low HP (Please don't do this with convert during Marbol before the acid has cleared) this can be very potent. Not the best, but the damage can be good.

White Mage
Benediction
Restores HP of all party members within range.

Great move, period. This is probably one of the best 15 minutes there is.


To be honest, I think out of all the new jobs, Dragoons got the worst of it. Even when you look at the Devs maybe wanting people to go back to the original classes, it takes a hit. For instance, a WAR can gladly go back to MRD and gain some abilities to make him stronger (many being DRG abilities), but if a DRG goes back to LNC, it doesn't really gain anything. Actually it loses jump. All in all, DRG should have been the highest DPS out of all the melee, with monk, but it isn't.

[Seirra_Lanzce]

Let's go over the abilities once more.

Warrior
Mighty Strikes
Guarantees all attacks made with axes will be critical hits.

The best out of the Melee's 15 minute IMO, it is short, but makes a boss fight just that much quicker. Also, for a tank WAR, it gives a good amount of hate.

Paladin
Hallowed Ground
Makes you impervious to all physical attacks.

As WHM as my secondary, this is a great move for a PLD to have. It is very short, but can help a lot. But let's be honest, who is using PLD as a tank?

Dragoon
Dragonfire Dive
Delivers a jumping fire attack to target and enemies near it.

A joke of a 15 min. It looks cool, that's about it. It's usefulness is close to zero, DRGs use it just to use it as a quick but weak AOE.

Monk
Hundred Fists
Temporarily increases auto-attack speed.

Mid-tier, it can help to burn those bosses down quick.

Bard
Battle Voice
Increases maximum HP of all party members within range and enhances effect of all songs sung while active.

A great move, especially for boss fights. It gives the WHMs some leeway in certain situations, on top of increasing the other songs.

Black Mage
Burst
Deals lightning damage.

Damage, at low HP (Please don't do this with convert during Marbol before the acid has cleared) this can be very potent. Not the best, but the damage can be good.

White Mage
Benediction
Restores HP of all party members within range.

Great move, period. This is probably one of the best 15 minutes there is.


To be honest, I think out of all the new jobs, Dragoons got the worst of it. Even when you look at the Devs maybe wanting people to go back to the original classes, it takes a hit. For instance, a WAR can gladly go back to MRD and gain some abilities to make him stronger (many being DRG abilities), but if a DRG goes back to LNC, it doesn't really gain anything. Actually it loses jump. All in all, DRG should have been the highest DPS out of all the melee, with monk, but it isn't.

I agree! Hush you BLMs dudes, we DRG get hit a lot! > Not fair! rofl! xD

[fusional]

people complaining about burst are doing it wrong. the end.

[Meleena]

While youre fixing burst fix 100 fists as well.