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  1. #11
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    Carighan's Avatar
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    Carighan Maconar
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    Zodiark
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SakuraMidnight View Post
    No non at all they use same formala they always use when doing dungeon design believe that 67 dark knight is different at its core then level100 dark knight you are wrong
    LOL

    So you couldn't even read the tooltips, after you explicitly said that's how you do it... sigh. Or you randomly wrote the wrong of the two tanks you picked for this thread to write that about. Good try, had a 50/50 chance. Unlucky, I suppose.
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  2. #12
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Honestly DRK and GNB are the least dungeon friendly out of the 4 tanks. DRK especially suffers when the person is not at maximum gear lvl for the piece of content they are running due to your main mitigation tool being tied directly to health.

    WAR being great starting at lvl 56 and beyond and PLD being decent at lvl 58 and beyond, these two tanks alone can make up for any bad healer in a dungeon. One can argue GNB being good at lvl 45, but lets be honest here. GNB doesnt really get good sustain wise until lvl 82 with HoC.

    When comparing tanks in dungeons you have to look at how they perform at minimum ilvl with their kit and compare from there
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  3. #13
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    Nero Tsukimi
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    Zalera
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    Honestly DRK and GNB are the least dungeon friendly out of the 4 tanks. DRK especially suffers when the person is not at maximum gear lvl for the piece of content they are running due to your main mitigation tool being tied directly to health.

    WAR being great starting at lvl 56 and beyond and PLD being decent at lvl 58 and beyond, these two tanks alone can make up for any bad healer in a dungeon. One can argue GNB being good at lvl 45, but lets be honest here. GNB doesnt really get good sustain wise until lvl 82 with HoC.

    When comparing tanks in dungeons you have to look at how they perform at minimum ilvl with their kit and compare from there
    I do think gun breaker is better then paladin but I have noticed that paladin struggles in question of DPS.

    But play the tank you enjoy that's all that really matter
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  4. #14
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    Mike Aettir
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    Cerberus
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    I do think gun breaker is better then paladin but I have noticed that paladin struggles in question of DPS.
    They really do not. Checking the numbers site, there is ~1% difference in DPS between the tanks and that is both the current Savage raids and UMAD.
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  5. #15
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    Nero Tsukimi
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_R View Post
    They really do not. Checking the numbers site, there is ~1% difference in DPS between the tanks and that is both the current Savage raids and UMAD.
    I came back from a year away and I don't do savage anymore because well I feel like it's a waste of time to do those. Not because they aren't interesting but because I know the gear I would have grind would be useless in a couple month.

    I still think paladin is weak in DPS then gunbreaker but dam paladin survive more tho and lets also be honest here.

    unlimited blade works!
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  6. #16
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    Carighan Maconar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    I still think paladin is weak in DPS then gunbreaker
    And that's just factually wrong.
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  7. #17
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    Nero Tsukimi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carighan View Post
    And that's just factually wrong.

    I STILL THINK lol it's my opinion and that's all there is to it xx)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    I STILL THINK lol it's my opinion and that's all there is to it xx)
    It's not a matter of opinion: there are actual numbers that show that the DPS balance for tanks is very good.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mukuku View Post
    It's not a matter of opinion: there are actual numbers that show that the DPS balance for tanks is very good.
    don't know because I honestly think people should play what they want I don't watch tier list and all that
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  10. #20
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    Carighan Maconar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    don't know because I honestly think people should play what they want I don't watch tier list and all that
    That's exactly all our point. You think there's an imbalance. There is none, people are free to play what they want without having to worry about raw output. xD
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