Forked Tower

[Khryseis_Astra]

Yeah im thinking they should, if there are no plans to do already, just do the same for Forked Tower and let folks run it unsynced with the new levels being added with North Horn.

Yes. Like Jeeqbit said, they could just copy/paste and change the wipe conditions to make a Normal mode. And that’s honestly what I would’ve preferred. I’ve been very vocal here about that, because this was the content I was most looking forward to in DT, and it disappointed me so much. But I’d settle for an unsync at this point. Honestly I just want the field notes and the Triad card, which never should have been locked behind this if they weren’t going to have a Normal mode. Make it so you only get the mount if you clear synced, I don’t care.

It feels unbalanced to have a Normal for North and leave South as is. Not everyone has the time to schedule and prog an entire dungeon, possibly multiple times.

[Godzillaxpowerrangers]

Part of me is waiting for the patch notes to say North tower will be hard mode only and normal will come at a later patch if at all.

[Themarvin]

People are no longer discussing it because the devs have already confirmed the raid in the new zone is getting a normal mode but normal mode for Forked Tower is not happening, so there's nothing more to discuss. If you want to try FT there are Discord servers like The Help Lines which hold learning groups where it's okay and expected to make mistakes. I ran with them for BA and DRS and it was a pretty painless and enjoyable experience, I'd definitely recommend checking them out.

I like the concept of players helping players alot, but I dislike the lack of responsibility of SE for not keeping this area of the game in general covered either.

[Chasingstars]

Also, we should never accept a "oops we made it savage" and then never correcting the problems. Cloud of Darkness was another "oops" that was never corrected. The devs acknowledged the mistakes but they never go back and fix them which regrettably makes what alot of us want to play now dead content.

Devs: "Oops we made this content into savage difficulty"
Players: "So you're going to fix it, right?"
Devs: "lol no"

[ServerCollaps]

Devs: "Oops we made this content into savage difficulty"
Players: "So you're going to fix it, right?"
Devs: "lol no"

sry but, its not even extreme mode difficulty
The mechs are very simple and easy to understand. On top of that, you have people that callout literally everything if you join any helper discord. Literally everyone can clear it by now
the "dps checks" also got nerfed multiple times by now (and get more nerfs with 7.55)

[Uzephi]

sry but, its not even extreme mode difficulty
The mechs are very simple and easy to understand. On top of that, you have people that callout literally everything if you join any helper discord. Literally everyone can clear it by now
the "dps checks" also got nerfed multiple times by now (and get more nerfs with 7.55)

I will never join a duty that will kick me (cause a fail state) after only three deaths. That's not a normal mode difficulty, especially when death is not a big deal in normal mode content for this game. Difficulty isn't just about DPS checks, "easy to understand" mechanics, or even 'nerfs.' PT is a prime example of that and how Square sees difficulty. Stones 51-98 are easy. The only difficult part of PT challenge floors is the untelegraphed AOEs. If they were telegraphed, PT would be a cakewalk. How so? A wipe kills the run. A wrongly placed mob can cascade into a failed duty and back to the checkpoint. FT is similar in this by making 3 fatal mistakes a run killer. But you are right, this content, just like PT isn't difficult at all... once you know it.

[Ilisidi]

if you join any helper discord.

I'm paying a sub to play FFXIV, not a third party chat.

[CCheshire]

I'm paying a sub to play FFXIV, not a third party chat.

Welp, I saw a few PF ads and fellowships dedicated to running hard content in-game for everyone who is allergic to discord servers too.

[Voidmage]

sry but, its not even extreme mode difficulty
The mechs are very simple and easy to understand. On top of that, you have people that callout literally everything if you join any helper discord. Literally everyone can clear it by now
the "dps checks" also got nerfed multiple times by now (and get more nerfs with 7.55)

Some people don't want to need Discord for playing simple content.
Other people don't want easy mistakes to wipe the group in content that wasn't even intended to be "hard" (simple to understand and simple to execute are too different things as Chaotic had already shown with that many players).

I have all the respect for the Discord people who take it unto them to make the devs mess even playable but I certainly don't enjoy following Callouts like a sheep.
All those "it's not hard, just use Discord" posts really don't help because they miss entirely the problem people have had with FT.

In the end though it is what it is.
The devs won't drop a normal mode so people simply won't do it and the clear rates will stay abysmal

[RaionKansen]

Normally I don't post anything but this is too much. Why has the community dropped the ball on not continuing to blast the boards about that there is still no Normal mode for Forked Tower going on 1 year after it's disastrous launch. I loved how the Bozjan Southern Front was implemented and loved CLL and DR. I hated the entry system for Eureka's BA as well as getting kicked out because Spirit of Remembrance deciding to not work. I'm not buying the they didn't have the resources line. We as a community need to do better and not lose focus and keep reminding the devs that they screwed up royally and the "fixes" that was implemented primarily benefited the hardcore players and not the casual to midcore players. I would love to try Forked Tower but do not want to be that one guy to ruin a run for everyone else simply because I made a mistake or I can't prog it because of the stupid 3 death limit. I don't know why they couldn't just replicate CLL or DR, those were fun. I would also want to know they are so dense and refuse to make it up to the community by refusing to fix their mistake and repair the trust and confidence in them and FFXIV by still not having a Forked Tower Normal yet.

Ive already cleared Forked tower several times. You could have done it by now. Especially as its continued to get easier to do. Things of value require effort and in an MMO it requires a group effort.

Put yourself out there, socialize, make some friends and do some fun content in the process.