Evercold White Mage first impressions

[ZephyrMenodora]

Does anyone have a link to this? This sounds...upsetting. Is Evolved mode some optional thing? I don't even know what it is so i'm not sure how to react to this news.

Regen and assize are two of my favorite skills and it's just gone?

Edit: Found a video with google and....errr. I won't be using this.

[Ankhira]

People wanted to be a heal bot, now they got what they wanted and they STILL complain.

You do understand the people asking to be healbots are not the same ones who wanted more complexity? It's not black and white like that. I always agreed I wish as a healer I could heal more, and if not that, that my job gets a more fun rotation or a little more complex. Instead, what I saw yesterday does neither. The job is easier (somehow) and knowing CB3 they'll just keep healing checks the same as they are for the most part and tell healers to "just go play ultimates."

I'm not part of the strike myself but it's not rocket science to see why healers are annoyed. Every little bit of skill expression they had left is getting removed and for what? So the medica III spamming WHM in normal roulettes has an easier time? I understand the game has to be balanced around casuals as much as raiders, I'm in the middle of that I would say, I raid but not hardcore. Yet I feel like this change benefits only people who were already playing WHM sub optimally, I know that's harsh to say but jobs can be simple to play and take skill to master.

They actually KNOW how to make healers fun because in PvP healers are genuinely fun and can do a crapton of healing on top of DMG. Yet for PvE we once again seem to be getting the short end of the stick. That's the frustrating part.

It's not about "winning" it's about the fact that for a lot of healers our feedback just falls on deaf ears. In no world did WHM have to be made any easier. You can absolutely like the changes, that is totally fine but you don't have to be so demeaning and act ignorant just because you're happy.

On that note, I'm genuinely worried for SCH tbh.

[Nadda]

Does anyone have a link to this? This sounds...upsetting. Is Evolved mode some optional thing? I don't even know what it is so i'm not sure how to react to this news.

Regen and assize are two of my favorite skills and it's just gone?

Well Evolved is a completely optional mode. We know that much.

Evolved mode seems to be consolidating abilities, limiting redundancies where possible (Making abilities do dual effects) and/or Job fantasy.

Reborn mode is playing the game as we know it now...

The issue though.

It's as if you work back all the consolidated spells from what was showcased with the Whitemage in Evolved mode.

Not all of our abilities seem actually to cross over? Which makes me start to think that there's been major ability pruning in our kit even if we do play in Reborn mode.

[Nadda]

WHM mana management is not even a thing anymore, starting with lvl 58 and up, and especially if there are no hard mechanics that requier ppl to be full hp to survive.

The only time you do have to do mana management is in some fights in-game with Niche mechanics. Like Kefka savage where the duration of the healing penalty is based on whether the people are topped off or not. He also reduces the party to 1 HP multiple times, followed by a lot of heavy raidwides. Some fights are heavy healer checks, but it's not the norm for sure.

In ultimates, you might sweat in some parts, but mana management is generally not a thing now.

It's still a thing. I don't actually think you could say mana management wouldn't be a thing. Especially if they are getting rid of thin air and our afflatus abilities.

[Daralii]

Does anyone have a link to this? This sounds...upsetting. Is Evolved mode some optional thing? I don't even know what it is so i'm not sure how to react to this news.

Regen and assize are two of my favorite skills and it's just gone?

They're basically trying to turn every job into a hybrid of VPR and their PvP selves. The current kits will exist without their buffs as "Reborn Mode," but it's going to be deliberately undertuned compared to Evolved, and no jobs released in 8.0 or later will have a Reborn version of their kits.

[ZephyrMenodora]

Well Evolved is a completely optional mode. We know that much.

Evolved mode seems to be consolidating abilities, limiting redundancies where possible (Making abilities do dual effects) and/or Job fantasy.

Reborn mode is playing the game as we know it now...

The issue though.

It's as if you work back all the consolidated spells from what was showcased with the Whitemage in Evolved mode.

Not all of our abilities seem actually to cross over? Which makes me start to think that there's been major ability pruning in our kit even if we do play in Reborn mode.

Thanks. In the video the overviewer commented that it was a simpler WHM. I love WhM and it's already on the easy side. Is this even needed? Seems like it makes it console friendly or something but I don't really find them combining effects or getting them from a proc to be more interesting than making choices.

[Azurarok]

It's still a thing. I don't actually think you could say mana management wouldn't be a thing. Especially if they are getting rid of thin air and our afflatus abilities.

Afflatus skills are still a thing, using whatever button that looks like Plenary Indulgence grants Afflatus, which turns Cure and Medica into Solace and Rapture and makes them instant cast and 0 mp cost

[ZephyrMenodora]

They're basically trying to turn every job into a hybrid of VPR and their PvP selves. The current kits will exist without their buffs as "Reborn Mode," but it's going to be deliberately undertuned compared to Evolved, and no jobs released in 8.0 or later will have a Reborn version of their kits.

I really hope we aren't punished for wanting to play our jobs as we have over a decade. But since they may want to push Evolved mode it wouldn't surprise me.

[DBriggs304]

Seems like it's just more dumbing down of job actions.

[Nadda]

Does Afflatus rapture give like plenary indulgence ontop of it now? If so that be really cool actually.

I'm not all doom and gloom. Not a heal striker type person. I think it's important to voice the concerns though. Lot of white mage is the skill expression from using the heals at our disposal.