For Shame, Mr. Yoshida - Being a Healer in 2026

[PercibelTheren]

Blame the heal bots holding parties hostage for healing being on everybody

Are those in the room with us right now? I very, VERY rarely see healers in Normal content who can't keep a tank alive. Plus when it happens in a dungeon, 9 times out of 10 the healer ran out of their fancy tools because stuff didn't die fast enough.

I see tanks who don't use mit or AoE abilities regularly, though. And all manner of interesting DPS players. I distinctly remember the time I had to Dance Partner our White Mage in a dungeon because they were putting out by far the most damage.

And yet, we don't see other jobs getting massive mitigation tools or huge damage nukes to compensate.

[Ser_Arven]

You guys who want to wall to wall cure spam are actively insane. The game isn't designed this way and if you don't like it there are other traditional mmos out there, and I swear if I read one "WoW is toxic" comment I'm gonna crash out.

The option to do higher end content is right there for you at any time and I can assure you healing is needed in Ex and above.

Dungeons are meant to be brain dead easy and tanks have self sustain because there will always be one WHM in expert who hits not one single button the entire run. You can't complain about easy content being easy when you refuse to try anything harder.

Even if they did make dungeons need more healing people would be in these forums rioting that due to various disabilities and other issues they can't heal that much and that dungeons are now too hard. Have we all forgotten the meso terminal incident?

[PercibelTheren]

You guys who want to wall to wall cure spam are actively insane. The game isn't designed this way and if you don't like it there are other traditional mmos out there, and I swear if I read one "WoW is toxic" comment I'm gonna crash out.

The option to do higher end content is right there for you at any time and I can assure you healing is needed in Ex and above.

Dungeons are meant to be brain dead easy and tanks have self sustain because there will always be one WHM in expert who hits not one single button the entire run. You can complain about easy content being easy when you refuse to try anything harder.

Have you healed high end content? Because I have. The moment you figure out the fight, the healing becomes utterly braindead because all you do is press your OGCD on schedule and keep spamming your filler spell afterwards. Most modern fights also just wipe you if people make mistakes, so triage is not a skill that's worth cultivating. Admittedly, Dawntrail is slightly better about it but it's still not amazing.

[Ser_Arven]

Have you healed high end content? Because I have. The moment you figure out the fight, the healing becomes utterly braindead because all you do is press your OGCD on schedule and keep spamming your filler spell afterwards. Most modern fights also just wipe you if people make mistakes, so triage is not a skill that's worth cultivating. Admittedly, Dawntrail is slightly better about it but it's still not amazing.

Dude I have been in so many M11s parties where we were just melting to damage in weapons and one healer went so far the other day as to say the reason we were dying to damage was because we were running double caster and had an extra addle (no overlap) instead of feint. We also had MCH dismantle as an extra.

There is a huge gap between good and bad healers in both high end and casual and thats why tanks have self sustain to make-up for the gap. Do you know how many times I have used Holmgang for a buster than been auto'd to death after because the healers were dreaming?

[Azurarok]

[...]Even if they did make dungeons need more healing people would be in these forums rioting that due to various disabilities and other issues they can't heal that much and that dungeons are now too hard. Have we all forgotten the meso terminal incident?

If someone has special needs to play the game that's something the devs should address by offering accessibility options via UI/UX, not by gutting jobs. Is it really being inclusive if what they're being offered is an abridged experience?

[Aravell]

The community: "Healing casual content must be braindead easy so literally every healer can clear dungeons even when not casting a single heal!"

Also the community: "Why are there so many bad healers in my PF?"

Funny how going through the entire game with absolutely zero challenge does nothing to prepare someone for endgame content. Bullet, meet foot.

[Ser_Arven]

If someone has special needs to play the game that's something the devs should address by offering accessibility options via UI/UX, not by gutting jobs. Is it really being inclusive if what they're being offered is an abridged experience?

Tell that to the people who had threads on here saying they were old, disabled and couldn't handle the "DDR" of current dungeons. The reason tanks have self sustain is so that the tank doesn't randomally die to healers who want to RP walk because dying through no fault on their own isn't fun for the tank.

At the end of the day these forums cannot make up their minds and its maddening. First dungeons were too easy so they made them harder and everyone on here suddenly had no arms, legs, were 90 years old and had cancer, so they swapped them back. Healers complained they had nothing to do so normal raids were much harder in Cruiserweight and definitely required some healing early on but once again people here were upset and complaining about DDR and needing to baby the party and chain raise.

At the end of the day if people want a more traditional mmo experience of heal botting there are plenty out there. In my opinion part of this games identity is that healers are expected to dps and balance the parties health with their own damage output.

I don't understand the fun in cure spamming an entire dungeon as opposed to glare spamming.

Thanks for coming to my Ted talk

[Aviatorhead]

Tell that to the people who had threads on here saying they were old, disabled and couldn't handle the "DDR" of current dungeons. The reason tanks have self sustain is so that the tank doesn't randomally die to healers who want to RP walk because dying through no fault on their own isn't fun for the tank.

At the end of the day these forums cannot make up their minds and its maddening. First dungeons were too easy so they made them harder and everyone on here suddenly had no arms, legs, were 90 years old and had cancer, so they swapped them back. Healers complained they had nothing to do so normal raids were much harder in Cruiserweight and definitely required some healing early on but once again people here were upset and complaining about DDR and needing to baby the party and chain raise.

At the end of the day if people want a more traditional mmo experience of heal botting there are plenty out there. In my opinion part of this games identity is that healers are expected to dps and balance the parties health with their own damage output.

I don't understand the fun in cure spamming an entire dungeon as opposed to glare spamming.

Thanks for coming to my Ted talk

Another example of someone who walks and & doesn't read anything.

Nobody is asking for cure spam. Theres a crap load of buttons a healer has to heal with, but 0 to use it on in 99% of casual content. Because tanks (and to a lesser extent dps) eat up that responsibility with healing abilities they DID NOT USED TO HAVE.

Of course rhe forum 'cant make up it's mind' you're talking about 100+ people with very different experiences with the game.

This dumb as bricks argument of 'tanks need to be able to heal themselves as good as a healer could because what if your healer is braindead' is trash. And has already been discussed a lot in this thread if you bothered to read the conversation before commenting.

[Reginald_Cain]

Are those in the room with us right now? I very, VERY rarely see healers in Normal content who can't keep a tank alive. Plus when it happens in a dungeon, 9 times out of 10 the healer ran out of their fancy tools because stuff didn't die fast enough.

I see tanks who don't use mit or AoE abilities regularly, though. And all manner of interesting DPS players. I distinctly remember the time I had to Dance Partner our White Mage in a dungeon because they were putting out by far the most damage.

And yet, we don't see other jobs getting massive mitigation tools or huge damage nukes to compensate.

Yes bruh I had a white mage in my party who was using cure 1 as much as possible because free cur is a psychological trap that generates healers wondering why they can't keep up with wall to wall.

I just took smaller pulls because im pretty certain if I tried to tell them ti just use cure 2 they'd feel harassed or guilty but this game does not teach new players how to play their jobs correctly at all and its better for time management and toxicity management for tanks and red mages to be able to save runs in casual content with their sustain abilities.

[Kohashi]

The man wasn't even playing before SHB :'D

Anything else?

Also, plenty of videos around from back in the day to actually get a basic understanding of what was happening. It's not rocket science.