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    Quote Originally Posted by Reginald_Cain View Post
    Blame the heal bots holding parties hostage for healing being on everybody
    Are those in the room with us right now? I very, VERY rarely see healers in Normal content who can't keep a tank alive. Plus when it happens in a dungeon, 9 times out of 10 the healer ran out of their fancy tools because stuff didn't die fast enough.

    I see tanks who don't use mit or AoE abilities regularly, though. And all manner of interesting DPS players. I distinctly remember the time I had to Dance Partner our White Mage in a dungeon because they were putting out by far the most damage.

    And yet, we don't see other jobs getting massive mitigation tools or huge damage nukes to compensate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PercibelTheren View Post
    Are those in the room with us right now? I very, VERY rarely see healers in Normal content who can't keep a tank alive. Plus when it happens in a dungeon, 9 times out of 10 the healer ran out of their fancy tools because stuff didn't die fast enough.

    I see tanks who don't use mit or AoE abilities regularly, though. And all manner of interesting DPS players. I distinctly remember the time I had to Dance Partner our White Mage in a dungeon because they were putting out by far the most damage.

    And yet, we don't see other jobs getting massive mitigation tools or huge damage nukes to compensate.
    Yes bruh I had a white mage in my party who was using cure 1 as much as possible because free cur is a psychological trap that generates healers wondering why they can't keep up with wall to wall.

    I just took smaller pulls because im pretty certain if I tried to tell them ti just use cure 2 they'd feel harassed or guilty but this game does not teach new players how to play their jobs correctly at all and its better for time management and toxicity management for tanks and red mages to be able to save runs in casual content with their sustain abilities.
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    I'm like crit melds fine, I wonder when they'll be me mine! penta meld then i hit rewind, to watch it slot one more time and I got thit SODA!

    -Reginald Pain #1 on the fa mic, blessed with Hydaelyns might, I'll kill ya on sight... *POW*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reginald_Cain View Post
    Yes bruh I had a white mage in my party who was using cure 1 as much as possible because free cur is a psychological trap that generates healers wondering why they can't keep up with wall to wall.

    I just took smaller pulls because im pretty certain if I tried to tell them ti just use cure 2 they'd feel harassed or guilty but this game does not teach new players how to play their jobs correctly at all and its better for time management and toxicity management for tanks and red mages to be able to save runs in casual content with their sustain abilities.
    All of those are game design concerns that could pretty easily be addressed without making healers obsolete in the vast majority of content. Being able to save runs in a clutch situation is fine. Being able to both tank and keep the party topped off like WAR is able to, not so much.

    Also, nobody would feel harassed unless you're being a jerk. Otherwise I'd have been banned fifty times over by now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PercibelTheren View Post
    All of those are game design concerns that could pretty easily be addressed without making healers obsolete in the vast majority of content. Being able to save runs in a clutch situation is fine. Being able to both tank and keep the party topped off like WAR is able to, not so much.

    Also, nobody would feel harassed unless you're being a jerk. Otherwise I'd have been banned fifty times over by now.
    I've had one too many experiences with people getting mad about being asked to deviate from their "desired gameplay experience they pay a sub for"

    Yeah healer in casual content could be fun if they had things to do when they aren't healing a dark knight wall to wall pulling. What i want most is engaging dps mechanics like Scholars old dot stacking in stormblood. As far as getting to heal more its difficult to implement that without upsetting half the player base. I hope healer is more engaging in 8.0 because that role has been awful to play since shadowbringers.
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    I'm like crit melds fine, I wonder when they'll be me mine! penta meld then i hit rewind, to watch it slot one more time and I got thit SODA!

    -Reginald Pain #1 on the fa mic, blessed with Hydaelyns might, I'll kill ya on sight... *POW*