HOUSING NEEDS TO CHANGE

[Xylira]

And we are circling back to that same argument. Equality vs Equity. Why are you holding players to different rulesets for the same functioning housing system?

Nope, my proposal holds everyone to the same rules; if you hold a ward plot you have a demo timer for that plot. It doesn't matter if you currently have one or get one later, you have to reset the demo timer or you lose the plot. That's the current rules, and that's what I'm suggesting the rules continue to be, that's the cost of having the privilege of having a home in a ward. I'm suggesting that players get to keep their home in a solo instance if they lose their ward plot, which is a vast improvement for everyone over the current system.

You keep crying about fairness, equality, equity, or whatever other emotionally charged words to try to gain sympathy, but it's all just a mask for your selfishness and entitlement.

[Solowing]

Nope, my proposal holds everyone to the same rules; if you hold a ward plot you have a demo timer for that plot. It doesn't matter if you currently have one or get one later, you have to reset the demo timer or you lose the plot. That's the current rules, and that's what I'm suggesting the rules continue to be, that's the cost of having the privilege of having a home in a ward. I'm suggesting that players get to keep their home in a solo instance if they lose their ward plot, which is a vast improvement for everyone over the current system.

You keep crying about fairness, equality, equity, or whatever other emotionally charged words to try to gain sympathy, but it's all just a mask for your selfishness and entitlement.

Sympathy? You think I jumped into a forum where you guys all pat each other on the back for the "right" opinions for sympathy? I jumped into this knowing the community doesn't take kindly to anyone with a deviating opinion. Because maybe you guys need a lil more of an honest take. Rather than being told what you want to hear.

The only one crying here is you.... Crying for Equity in a system that offers equality in opportunity.

[Xylira]

Sympathy? You think I jumped into a forum where you guys all pat each other on the back for the "right" opinions for sympathy? I jumped into this knowing the community doesn't take kindly to anyone with a deviating opinion. Because maybe you guys need a lil more of an honest take. Rather than being told what you want to hear.

The only one crying here is you.... Crying for Equity in a system that offers equality in opportunity.

Strange thing to say you're for equality and fairness when you want to force players to lose their home after auto demo rather than have it moved into a solo instance. Seems pretty vindictive if you ask me.

[Divinemights]

It's literally only you that's getting 'pissed off', and it seems entirely based upon your entitlement that your house isn't perceived as being diminished in any way.

And there is a way to address the issue of having both instanced housing and ward housing fairly.

Separate the idea of a ward plot and a house. Your current ward plot is your ward plot, the house on it is a separate entity. The demo timer is for the ward plot and only the plot. If the demo timer expires, you lose the plot, but your house gets transferred from the ward plot into a solo instance with all of it's furniture and decorations left as they presently are. Conversely, an instanced home could be seamlessly transferred from a solo instance onto a ward plot, if said ward plot is won through the current lottery system.

That's how you can have instanced housing available to all players and also actually improve the ward system, because then you wouldn't actually lose your house if the demo timer expires, only the plot it's on. If you want to maintain a ward plot then you have to contend with the demo timer system, so that all players who specifically want their house to be in a ward still have the opportunity to access the system. If you don't, you get to keep your house, but you only give up the ward plot.

No offense, I am not trying to be rude but your suggestion feels like solving the wrong problem.
Your suggestion is pointless. (like taking off your pant before farting)
The demolition timer exists for a technical reason.
Square Enix simply does not have the same server architecture or instancing capability that Blizzard uses.
And to be clear, this isn’t unique to them as most Japanese game companies, including Nintendo and Capcom are way behind compared to most of Western developers.
If Square Enix had the capability to seamlessly convert every existing house into an instance, they likely would have already implemented full instanced housing or made ward plots universally available.
The fact that they haven’t strongly suggests it isn’t that simple.

A lot of players assume the solution is easy: "just instance it” or “just let everyone keep their plot”, but those ideas ignore the technical limitations with SE games.
Housing isn’t restricted because the developers want it to be, it’s restricted because of how the game’s architecture was built.
It’s also worth remembering that both the demolition timer and the housing lottery were introduced largely in response to player feedback.
Ironically, many “player suggestion” on this forum tend to be short sighted and often create new problems that eventually affect the entire community.

[Solowing]

Strange thing to say you're for equality and fairness when you want to force players to lose their home after auto demo rather than have it moved into a solo instance. Seems pretty vindictive if you ask me.

"How do ya make a decision thats fair?"

"Ya cant, somebody always feels like its not fair to them, and the fairest decisions, those are the ones where everybody feels screwed."

I thought this made a lot of sense. So I leave it for you.

[Xylira]

Square Enix simply does not have the same server architecture or instancing capability that Blizzard uses.
And to be clear, this isn’t unique to them as most Japanese game companies, including Nintendo and Capcom are way behind compared to most of Western developers.
If Square Enix had the capability to seamlessly convert every existing house into an instance, they likely would have already implemented full instanced housing or made ward plots universally available.
The fact that they haven’t strongly suggests it isn’t that simple.

A lot of players assume the solution is easy: "just instance it” or “just let everyone keep their plot”, but those ideas ignore the technical limitations with SE games.
Housing isn’t restricted because the developers want it to be, it’s restricted because of how the game’s architecture was built.
It’s also worth remembering that both the demolition timer and the housing lottery were introduced largely in response to player feedback.
Ironically, many “player suggestion” on this forum tend to be short sighted and often create new problems that eventually affect the entire community.

Housing is already instanced from a technical perspective. Housing interiors aren't loaded until a player attempts to access them, which was provably seen when Island sanctuaries came out. They shared resources with the housing server, and the popularity of Island Sanctuaries at the time had players having difficulty entering their houses and apartments as the servers struggled to keep up with demand to spin up new instances. This is actually part of why wards are flawed from a technical design perspective, as it's also been observed that wards remain loaded in as an active instance 24/7/365 regardless of whether a player is even in the ward or not. This means server resources are being wasted to keep instances loaded with everyone's housing exteriors even if no one is there to interact with them. Consequently, adding new housing wards has a cumulative drain on server resources regardless of how much they're actively being accessed.

And absolutely, I don't know the internal workings of however SE has setup their code. But we can see through observation what SE has managed currently within their own system. As previously mentioned housing interiors are already instanced. How you enter those interiors varies from either entering through a ward plot home, a ward apartment, through a FC home room, etc, but they all load into instances. Island Sanctuary was also proof of concept that large player specific instances can be spun up on demand, and even contain outdoor decorations as placed by the player. That's some pretty compelling proof of concept that doesn't make for a large leap for SE to place a house within an island sanctuary type instance, and have an entrance within that instance to enter an interior home instance.

[NightHour]

People comparing WoW housing to XIV forget that WoW gets 10x + the budget that XIV does.