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    Quote Originally Posted by Reimmi View Post
    What does that even mean
    Pretty sure they are referring to the fact that the term 'Beastman' is an In Universe slur specifically created and coined by the Ul'dahn Merchants in an attempt to alienate people against the more bestial appearing races such as the Amal'jaa, Kobolds, Ixali, Sylphs, Qiqirn, and others. This was to keep them from competing against Ul'dahn merchants who had managed to essentially corner the market on resources that these other races would normally compete in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vrankyl View Post
    Pretty sure they are referring to the fact that the term 'Beastman' is an In Universe slur specifically created and coined by the Ul'dahn Merchants in an attempt to alienate people against the more bestial appearing races such as the Amal'jaa, Kobolds, Ixali, Sylphs, Qiqirn, and others. This was to keep them from competing against Ul'dahn merchants who had managed to essentially corner the market on resources that these other races would normally compete in.
    This is correct, if anyone is curious to the source of this, it's from Encyclopedia Eorzea II, to quote the relevant part:

    In the year 1559th year [sic] of the Sixth Astral Era, the sultanate of Ul'dah, under heavy influence by the Syndicate, officially coined the term "beast tribe," using it to describe those "foreign" entities whose interests directly oppose or interfere with those of the city-state. Amalj'aa were declared enemies of the people for opposing expansionist policies that saw the tribe's traditional homeland divided up by mining concerns. Citing the protection of "local interests," evictions were issued for Qiqirn, goblin, and sylph traders, and all dealing with the victims of circumstance strictly prohibited. The Syndicated had swiftly and effectively sown a national distrust in entire races so as to create a diversion that they may profit in the confusion--a distrust that remains to this day, and has become accepted amongst even our most educated. Yet, as stated above, if there is naught that separates our peoples beyond a term born of convenience and fostered in self-serving sanctimony, then does that not make us beast for insisting that these, our brothers, are in some way beneath us? Are we Eorzeans so insecure that we must continue this practice which historians will almost certainly look back upon with both disgust and disbelief?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RagAndBoneLady View Post
    Can see the reasoning but it sounds and looks absolutely stilted as a feature name, no doubt. I can see why it rubs people the wrong way.

    Culture Quests? Kindred Quests? Diplomatic Delves? There has to be something that feels better to say, surely? XD
    All of yout suggstions are better than Allied Societies.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    Beast Tribes wouldn't really fit them anymore... But I do think they should have just kept them as Tribes.
    Seeker miqo'tes and Xaela au ras organize themselves into tibes, so surely being part of tribe isn't problem.

    Also, I made observation: "Beast Tribes" are gone from auto-translate, while being the word they are called by before Endwalker.
    But "beastman" is still there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burmecia View Post
    All of yout suggstions are better than Allied Societies.
    Agreed. I still call them beast tribes just because it's less of a mouthful to say, and because of built up habits, but 'Kindred Quests' I probably wouldn't have minded swapping to. 'Allied Societies' is just... too long. Too stiff. It's correct, but I'm not gonna say "hold one, let me turn in my ALLIED SOCIETY QUESTS before we go into raid"
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