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  1. #141
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    Aelin_Ashryver's Avatar
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    Aelin Ashriver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandr View Post
    House hoarders have no say in this conversation, because YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM.
    Hell I just got house nr 7 on chaos today (cute little beachside cottage in the mist <3) and in less than a month I can start bidding on FC plots on that character to bring the total to 8. I do use the fc rooms on alts in the fc houses so it's much the same as apartments, they are great and fun to decorate without feeling like too much.

    I get on some servers getting a house is harder than others, but it's not impossible. And certainly you don't get to say x or y can't contribute to a conversation based on some rule you made up in your own head.

    There's reason to want and support instanced housing, but I agree with others I care a lot about the wards remaining relevant as for a social experience they are just better. I would appreciate SE taking some action to liven them up, for example I'd be totally in favour of gil farm via FC's being taken out back and shot. I would rather housing be used for decorating, socialising etc than just kept empty for the sake of gil farm. And we know that motivation does eat a fair few plots across many servers, taking the motivation away has a good shot at opening up those houses and giving the desired supply without even adding instanced housing at all.

    Even with all the clamour for housing from players across this forum, looking on the websites to show bids on plots just shows there's just not a huge deficit currently, esp for private plots in many cases there is excess. Hence why I just bought a little cottage in a very nice spot with no competition, there were about a dozen mediums up with 1 or 2 bids each and I think one had more cause ofc it's shiro medium in nicer spot. Which doesn't mean all those bidders are homeless, for mediums many will be trying to relocate. So for a first action I would much rather SE do something about the gil farm via subs, complete their promise on the housing mirage that lets people turn smalls into large's tardis style. And then see where we land from there, cause imo that will solve most issues at current player population. We'd need a hell of a lot of people to come back to the game before we felt a housing pinch again, and newer servers have empty wards sitting waiting for that to happen.
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    Last edited by Aelin_Ashryver; 01-14-2026 at 01:01 AM.

  2. #142
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    Miqo Myers
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    Great Idea!

    I enjoyed reading this idea. I don't know if it's already been mentioned in the comments, but I had an idea about the existing wards. Instead of empty plots, maybe add model houses with NPC owners. This would spruce up otherwise barren neighborhoods.
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  3. #143
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    Emerson Ney
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurado View Post
    I enjoyed reading this idea. I don't know if it's already been mentioned in the comments, but I had an idea about the existing wards. Instead of empty plots, maybe add model houses with NPC owners. This would spruce up otherwise barren neighborhoods.
    Or or! Like how in the Empyreum you have ahem the blue elephant NPC and things, make more of them. Make more NPCs that just wander around.
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  4. #144
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyastra View Post
    Or or! Like how in the Empyreum you have ahem the blue elephant NPC and things, make more of them. Make more NPCs that just wander around.
    Stock Layout exteriors, but on entry it'll pull a random plot from the ward list to fill that location in the instance.

    Directory randomizes when you leave the "ward"
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    Last edited by Solowing; 01-17-2026 at 09:27 AM.

  5. #145
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    you need to convince the JP community there is an issue. they won't read any of this stuff
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  6. #146
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega_Enthusiast View Post
    you need to convince the JP community there is an issue. they won't read any of this stuff
    That's going to be harder to do, As their housing standards and preferences are FAR different then those in the west.

    Pulled this from reddit

    Majority of westerners living in Japan are American and from their standard, Japanese houses are tiny. From European standard, Japanese houses are average size.

    Average house size by country.

    Canada1948 sq. ft181 sq. meters

    France1206 sq. ft112 sq. meters

    Germany1173 sq. ft109 sq. meters

    Italy872 sq. ft81 sq. meters

    Japan1023 sq. ft95 sq. meters

    Spain1044 sq. ft97 sq. meters

    United Kingdom818 sq. ft76 sq. meters

    United States2164 sq. ft201 sq. meters
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    Last edited by Solowing; 01-26-2026 at 10:00 PM.
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  7. #147
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    What’s the point of this vs reworking apartments? We already have 5 distinctly themed zones of more or less spoiler free apartments that any subscriber can get from level 50 and I would rather see Square put their efforts into making them more flexible and functional than create a whole new convoluted, redundant version of them with immersion breaking spoiler warnings and high progression requirements.
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  8. #148
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    Quote Originally Posted by debleb View Post
    What’s the point of this vs reworking apartments? We already have 5 distinctly themed zones of more or less spoiler free apartments that any subscriber can get from level 50 and I would rather see Square put their efforts into making them more flexible and functional than create a whole new convoluted, redundant version of them with immersion breaking spoiler warnings and high progression requirements.
    Kugane/Empyerium wards should be made reachable from The main city hubs aytherite
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    he's going to grift,harass, downplay, disenfranchise, gaslight, stalk,and gate keep!

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