Potential Housing Crisis Fix (Includes ability for permanent Housing (Sm, Med, Lrg)

[s32ialx]

Proposal: Permanent Condo Housing in Solution 9

Solution 9 is a massive cyberpunk metropolis, far larger than the playable area, filled with towering skyscrapers. Given its scale and futuristic setting, it is the perfect location to introduce permanent player housing in the form of private and Free Company condos.



How It Works

• Players can purchase condos in designated skyscrapers within Solution 9, each building featuring unique names, lobbies, and elevators that lead to assigned floors.
• Condos function similarly to apartments but have multiple sizes and floors like traditional houses.
• The ability to choose an interior size even if it costs way way way more gil (let us have gil sinks! infinite large interiors!)
• The ability to put outdoor furnishings in a dedicated outdoor section, even if that option costs more gil (like a balcony or a top of the roof garden area)
• The ability for that exterior furnishing area to support cross breeding of gardening plants
• Condos are permanent—you won’t lose them due to inactivity.

Example Condo Listings

• Sol 9 > Nexus Tower > Floor 50 > Condo 20
• Sol 9 > The Aegis Residences > Floor 2 > Condo 5
• Sol 9 > Hyperion Flats > Floor 24 > Condo 14

Each building would have its own distinct aesthetic and atmosphere, enriching the player experience and making housing more accessible for both individuals and FCs.



Accessibility for Players Without MSQ Progression

• Instead of being teleported to the lobby, players who haven't completed the required MSQ are sent to a windowless hallway within the skyscraper.
• Opt-in spoiler warning appears for condos with balconies or windows, ensuring players can choose whether to enter.
• The hallway itself does not spoil anything, making it a safe space for visitors.

Why This Works

• Permanent housing option without disrupting existing wards.
• Sol 9's vertical cityscape perfectly fits condo-style residences.
• FCs finally get permanent homes without worrying about losing them.
• Enhances immersion by tying housing directly into the world of Solution 9.

Internet Speeds & Server Load

• Instanced Housing Already Exists: Apartments and personal housing wards already function as instanced areas, meaning the game does not need to render every home in a massive open world only the instance a player is visiting.
• Condos Would Be Instanced Too: If condos follow the same logic, players would only load into their assigned floor and condo, not an entire skyscraper, minimizing bandwidth usage.
• Modern Data Centers Can Handle This: Square Enix's existing infrastructure already supports millions of players across wards, apartments, and instanced dungeons, meaning condos wouldn't introduce an unreasonable strain.
• High-Speed Internet Is Standard: Most players have access to broadband or fiber-optic internet, making data transmission for instanced condos very efficient, especially compared to large open-world areas.

Hardware & Rendering

• Low Graphical Demands Per Condo: Unlike vast open zones, condo interiors would require very little real-time rendering similar to apartments or interior spaces.
• Optimized Instancing for Floors: Since each player condo would only require their own instance to load, hardware wouldn’t need to process massive outdoor environments or dozens of structures at once.
• Pre-existing Housing Systems Can Be Used: Solution 9 furniture already exists in the game, meaning there would be no need for complex new assets, just minor layout and instancing tweaks.

Server Optimization

• Persistent But Limited Instances: Instead of every condo being “active” all the time, it could function similarly to apartments only loading when occupied or visited.
• Shared Hallways & Lobbies: Instead of every condo unit existing separately in-game, players would enter a shared hallway or lobby, reducing data consumption. (Think of WoW's phasing so it would be the same hall way for each floor but depending on which floor you are on only people on that would be visible and players on other floors would be phased out of existence / chat range)
• Smart Resource Allocation: Square Enix already manages millions of housing instances, meaning integrating permanent condos would just extend an existing system, not reinvent the wheel.

Pros

• Permanent housing option without disrupting existing wards.
• FCs can finally have permanent homes without worrying about losing them.
• Easier access to housing compared to the limited ward system.
• Solution 9’s vertical cityscape perfectly fits condo-style residences.
• More variety in housing options, with multiple floors and sizes.
• Improved immersion by tying housing into the game’s cyberpunk world.

Cons & Considerations

• No outdoor spaces, unlike traditional houses with yards if they do not add balconies.
• Might limit customization options compared to current houses if they do not add the ability to have balconies or such.
• Could be expensive, depending on in-game pricing.
• Could reduce ward-based housing demand, depending on implementation.

TL;DR

Solution 9 should offer permanent player condos for individuals and FCs. These condos would have multiple floors and sizes, exist in towering skyscrapers, and function like apartments but without the risk of losing them due to inactivity. Players who haven’t completed the MSQ would be teleported to a neutral hallway, ensuring no spoilers while allowing visitor access. This would revolutionize housing and make Solution 9 feel even more immersive!

Permanent condos wouldn’t require excessive resources because:

- They’d be instanced, only loading when entered.
- Square Enix already manages housing efficiently across wards and apartments.
- Modern internet speeds can easily handle this type of instancing.
- Graphical and processing demands would be low, as condos are interior spaces.
- Server optimization could ensure only occupied spaces use active resources.

P.S. I did not realize there was a housing forum so I also have this post in General

[Yuniko]

I really like this concept. I think it's fresh, and a good veiw on things.

The only issue i see, is SE themselves.

[Khryseis_Astra]

As I said on the other post, this is a good idea, I’d just like to see the small/medium/large layouts applied to all apartments/FC rooms as an option.

Failing that, I’d like to see it happen in other cities as well. If it ends up needing to be an entirely new system that somehow can’t be applied to existing apartments, then I think the bonus should be that there’s more variety of locations available.

[Solowing]

I'm gonna be honest this is just asking for ward housing in a different round about way. That gives you a better version of what's already available.While also allowing you to sidestep the demolition timer while leaving those who already have a plot with the demo timer.

Why do I have to stay subscribed and deal with the demolition timer so you can get a better version of what I have.But the only downside is there's no yard (if no balcony shows). You have 18 slots to work with, (small) vs removing a demo timer in its entirety....

[s32ialx]

I'm gonna be honest this is just asking for ward housing in a different round about way. That gives you a better version of what's already available.While also allowing you to sidestep the demolition timer while leaving those who already have a plot with the demo timer.

Why do I have to stay subscribed and deal with the demolition timer so you can get a better version of what I have.But the only downside is there's no yard (if no balcony shows). You have 18 slots to work with, (small) vs removing a demo timer in its entirety....

Um no try being a little kinder with your tone, no one would be forcing you to deal with a demolition timer. If this was introduced it would be your choice if you want to deal with that. Anyone doing MSQ and not getting side tracked going to venues and unlocking side content before they finish MSQ would never have enough gil to buy and furnish an house in a regular ward anyways housing is an End Game feature regardless, so if you want a ward where your house can expire so that it's pretty and outdoorsy that would be on you don't make it sound like it's the players fault, who decide they don't want that, it's Squares fault not the players. Nothing stops anyone from moving there, and with permanent housing in Sol 9 it could open up the ability for JUST LIKE APARTMENTS the player to have a permanent Condo in sol 9 while also retaining their current warded house since they would be Apartments with a fancier name anyways.

Also the whole "sidestep" the demolition timer is the whole point it's in the title *Permanent* housing in 2025 this is the ONLY MMORPG that offers player housing that expires, All MMO's that offer housing INCLUDING FFXIV are instance wards or not.

I still have my house on Runescape, and I stopped paying for that game in 2011/2012.

So you're gonna have apartments that are larger than smalls but costs less , but also don't have a demolition timer?

Why are you so salty about this?

[SophiaDL]

Why are you so salty about this?

Because what you two are asking for is basically for instanced housing that is better than ward housing which is limited and has an auto demolition timer, it's absolutely silly.

You want none of the risk and time it takes to take a plot, and want more than ward housing gives which needs both of those provides, it makes absolutely no sense.

[Solowing]

Um no try being a little kinder with your tone, no one would be forcing you to deal with a demolition timer. If this was introduced it would be your choice if you want to deal with that. Anyone doing MSQ and not getting side tracked going to venues and unlocking side content before they finish MSQ would never have enough gil to buy and furnish an house in a regular ward anyways housing is an End Game feature regardless, so if you want a ward where your house can expire so that it's pretty and outdoorsy that would be on you don't make it sound like it's the players fault, who decide they don't want that, it's Squares fault not the players. Nothing stops anyone from moving there, and with permanent housing in Sol 9 it could open up the ability for JUST LIKE APARTMENTS the player to have a permanent Condo in sol 9 while also retaining their current warded house since they would be Apartments with a fancier name anyways.

Also the whole "sidestep" the demolition timer is the whole point it's in the title *Permanent* housing in 2025 this is the ONLY MMORPG that offers player housing that expires, All MMO's that offer housing INCLUDING FFXIV are instance wards or not.

I still have my house on Runescape, and I stopped paying for that game in 2011/2012.



Why are you so salty about this?

Because permanent housing already existing game, it's called Apts, they don't get demolished, your solution existed for years already.

Even you said it yourself. "Solution 9 condos are an apt with a fanier name"

you still have your house in runescape and you stop paying for that in 2012, If you stop playing for Ff14, you can't login... And if you haven't logged in in six months clearly you don't care about that plot.

You ask, why am salty about it.Well, let me flip that question back on you.Why you so salty that you don't have a plot when housing exists without needing a plot.. when i started apartments weren't even a thing, If you didn't have a plot you didn't have housing. Is that still true?

Or is there an alternate version of housing that is non demolitable?

That is my criteria of a housing crisis. You cannot decorate because you just don't have the ability to do so.

Balmung has a housing crisis, if you arnt on a server like Balmung you don't have a housing crisis.

You guys need to be honest. Stop with misrepresenting the issue. "I don't like apartments, I want a bigger space" is more apt. No pun intended.

[s32ialx]

Because what you two are asking for is basically for instanced housing that is better than ward housing which is limited and has an auto demolition timer, it's absolutely silly.

You want none of the risk and time it takes to take a plot, and want more than ward housing gives which needs both of those provides, it makes absolutely no sense.

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First off as my understanding I can log in to RS yes but housing is a paid member thing not a free user thing unless things have changed.

You're looking at this as if it's designed to replace ward housing, when that's simply not the case. Solution 9 condos wouldn't be "better" than ward housing, they'd be different. Wards would still offer outdoor spaces, exclusivity, and full plot customization, which condos wouldn’t have.
You mention that permanent housing already exists in the form of apartments, but apartments are extremely limited, single-room spaces with far fewer customization options. The scale and flexibility of condos would provide players with a middle-ground: bigger than an apartment, more accessible than a ward.
This isn't about sidestepping effort, it's about offering housing that works for different types of players. Some want the gamble of obtaining a limited ward plot, and that's fine, but others just want a secure, customizable space without dealing with the stress of auto-demolition timers.
And regarding a housing crisis? It isn’t just about Balmung. It’s about players across many servers who struggle with housing accessibility due to limited supply, life circumstances, or simply disliking the idea of losing their space if they take a break from the game. If ward housing works for you, great, keep your ward plot. But acting like everyone should just accept a flawed system because you did isn’t reasonable.
This discussion isn’t about entitlement, it’s about making housing more accessible without taking away options from anyone else.

P.S. Wards are instances. Fight me on it.

[Rabblerabble]

I do not think anything past regular apartments should be demo timer free.

I do feel if someone wanted a much larger "apartment" like a "large" house size one, they pay the same gil for a large house and get a balcony for gardening and lawn chairs like a normal large house, but it also gets a demo timer. Fair play is fair play imho.