Dungeons: Add Phoenix Down Drops

[Erinellza]

Drops would be nice, since many casual players don’t even know this item exists.

[Veritas-Ancora]

Drops would be nice, since many casual players don’t even know this item exists.

That's exactly the problem. Nowhere in the game does it indicate you can use a Phoenix Down unless you have one in your inventory and see it lit up AND test it for yourswelf.

[theunhappypotato]

Oh, I know how to use Phoenix Downs, I just don't care to carry them around the same way I don't bother with other potions or food. I've only got so much inventory space and there's other things I'd rather be spending gil on, so they're not a priority for me.

If people are dying that much in normal content where Phoenix Downs have become a "necessity" than that just tells me the content is over-tuned.

always the contents faults am i right?

[Connor]

I think it’s a good idea. Maybe it would signal to people more clearly ‘hey you can use this now’. Then again, with the lack of direction you’re given unless you keep up to date with patch notes (idk how common that is lol), it’s not surprising a lot people never noticed they’re even an option now

[KihyiFelhede]

+1 for implementing a "use phoenix down in solo instance" to act as a tutorial

[Rongway]

Drowning in materia? I can see that there's a lot on the market board, but some are drowning in debt because of how expensive they are for up-to-date crafting and gathering needs for BiS. You have to actually work for materia.

Dungeons don't drop crafter/gatherer materia.

[Veritas-Ancora]

+1 for implementing a "use phoenix down in solo instance" to act as a tutorial

A tutorial would be great, but where would they put it? And would people just ignore it if it's too low of a level for most to notice?

[TheRealDesastr]

I didn't know Downs had become so widely used, that's good to know. It could be like a potion where you could craft them, but that wouldn't fix the problem really of people not knowing what to do with them. They may not make changes because it 'gets people to do deep dungeons' more maybe, but I'm not sure if that's a good argument (I don't think it is myself). I feel like if they really want people doing that content more, they could add more rewards and make it more evergreen, maybe bring more attention and make 'seasons' or something you can earn currency for, like PvP. Could apply to all deep dungeons. (I know you can just buy them on the vendor ofc, I just have seen floated that it's expensive or something).

Anyway I'm getting ahead of myself, those ideas are a bit irrelevant. I support the ideas of adding them to more content like regular dungeons either way, I just had no idea Downs were so necessary, that's good to know and interesting!

[KihyiFelhede]

A tutorial would be great, but where would they put it? And would people just ignore it if it's too low of a level for most to notice?

I believe some of the tank quests have a solo instance where you cannot complete it without using "Interrupt". It could be added in MSQ at both low and high level? Just spitballing but there's plenty of "do mechanic or fail" solo instances. It's easy to add in hall of the novice, and for higher level maybe one of the ones where you play with an NPC's kit.

[PercibelTheren]

Honestly, phoenix down being usable only in such limited amount of instances and sharing cooldown with potions makes it pretty much useless

I really appreciate that they can stack now, though. I run Deep Dungeons a lot and sometimes we mess up and having the extra rez is really nice. Other than that, yeah. Needing to stand still for a long while and being unable to get hit means they often still don't help.