Dungeons: Add Phoenix Down Drops

[Aidorouge]

I'm fine with them adding this but honestly it shouldn't be necessary. You can buy Phoenix Downs at a vendor, I myself carry a whole stack of them. The idea that in a party nobody would have any to resurrect a dead healer makes me lose a bit more faith in this community. I feel like adding this is going to just further cater to people not learning how to play the game which is part of why every job is just homogenized and braindead now. I dunno, it might seem like a drop in the bucket but even another inch down this slippery slope we've been rocketing down for years has me wary. At a certain point we need to stop handholding, you know?

Oh, I know how to use Phoenix Downs, I just don't care to carry them around the same way I don't bother with other potions or food. I've only got so much inventory space and there's other things I'd rather be spending gil on, so they're not a priority for me.

If people are dying that much in normal content where Phoenix Downs have become a "necessity" than that just tells me the content is over-tuned.

[theunhappypotato]

Oh, I know how to use Phoenix Downs, I just don't care to carry them around the same way I don't bother with other potions or food. I've only got so much inventory space and there's other things I'd rather be spending gil on, so they're not a priority for me.

If people are dying that much in normal content where Phoenix Downs have become a "necessity" than that just tells me the content is over-tuned.

always the contents faults am i right?

[PercibelTheren]

Oh, I know how to use Phoenix Downs, I just don't care to carry them around the same way I don't bother with other potions or food. I've only got so much inventory space and there's other things I'd rather be spending gil on, so they're not a priority for me.

If people are dying that much in normal content where Phoenix Downs have become a "necessity" than that just tells me the content is over-tuned.

Unless something has significantly changed, Phoenix Downs are dirt cheap on the market board, though...

[Veritas-Ancora]

Unless something has significantly changed, Phoenix Downs are dirt cheap on the market board, though...

It's not about money, it's about accessibility. Phoenix Down should be more well known for dungeons than they are. I can't tell you how many healers died and NOPE'd out of the trial back to the beginning without realizing I had a Phoenix Down to revive them.

By having it offered in the dungeon, it lets people know that these items are actually beneficial to the place they're in. It also ensures that the item itself is plentiful in the case that people run out.

[Gaiinahat]

I usually just announce I have Phoenix Downs at the start of the dungeon.

[GraceHorizon]

I think it’s a reasonable idea to add Phoenix Down drops to dungeons, especially lower level ones that are more likely to contain sprouts with no gil. For an established player the expense doesn’t really matter, but folks just starting out would benefit and it would help encourage everyone to use them.

[Alicie]

Honestly, phoenix down being usable only in such limited amount of instances and sharing cooldown with potions makes it pretty much useless

[PercibelTheren]

Honestly, phoenix down being usable only in such limited amount of instances and sharing cooldown with potions makes it pretty much useless

I really appreciate that they can stack now, though. I run Deep Dungeons a lot and sometimes we mess up and having the extra rez is really nice. Other than that, yeah. Needing to stand still for a long while and being unable to get hit means they often still don't help.

[Nyastra]

How about we teach people that they can die and be raised without them having to port back because lord if I try to phoenix down someone one more time and they port back I will lose it.

We wiped in Sastasha, granted, I had trash gear and the healer pulled all the last mobs (like ALL) then couldn't keep up the healing. Luckily, she had time to do swiftcast raise on me (in the boss room) I grabbed the remaining mobs with the two dps then raised her with a phoenix down.

I keep a stack of 99 on me anyway.

[Veritas-Ancora]

How about we teach people that they can die and be raised without them having to port back because lord if I try to phoenix down someone one more time and they port back I will lose it.

I relate to this so hard.

I feel like the port back in dungeons shouldn't even be an option unless everyone is dead in the dungeon's boss area.