How would You Feel about a Honkai: Star Rail Crossover?

[Burmecia]

multiverse would be getting pretty wild but guess it would be fine ┐(´ー｀)┌

[Loggos]

Please keep gacha slop away from ffxiv. I don't want to see it. The reason I don't play gacha games is because they're just skinner boxes designed to funnel you into spending tons of money to really enjoy the game, and I want that type of design kept far away from ffxiv. At least in this game I can just pay my monthly sub and enjoy the entire gameplay content of the game. I don't want the devs of this game(or worse, the shareholders) getting any wind of the anti-consumer practices in gacha design and then implementing that into this game.

As much as I'm addicted to Genshin, I agree with this. I am glad that FF14 is still one of the few "old school" live service games. I'm already not a fan of the extra cash shop but mogstation aside I'm happy FF14 is a game I can just play to its full extend without ever having to worry about p2w, let alone upgrades that are priced so unreasonably. I hate that despite my knowing how ludicrous it is to pay several hundred dollars just for a constellation their tactics work on me and genuinely have me consider on a regular basis if I should hand over my cash before reason kicks back in. Having a game that doesn't expose me to the stress of this constant psychological battle against my monkey urges is really precious to me.

Unfortunately, with FF14 mobile's glam lootboxes and all that talk about FF14's future I'm afraid SE might ditch their consumer-friendlier sub model and move their FF14 mobile business model to the full version at some point. Or they go down the overwatch route.
That would definitely put me in a conflict and pit my hatred for the predatory nature of gacha against the sunk-cost-fallacy part of my brain that has invested 10+ years into this game.

I'm on the fence whether a crossover would accelerate this process or have little influence bc SE is aware of those practises anyway (ngl I wouldn't hate to get a Kaeya glam to match my character's name). But I can see your point that actively engaging with gacha games via crossovers might be an instance of "conditioning" to acquaint us with the idea and ease us into the process of taking FF14 from a sub model to one that incorporates (some) gacha.

In terms of quality I do have to agree with several comments here (though I can only come at this from the perspective of a Genshin player - I haven't played other Hoyo games). Whereas there are many FF14 aspects I prefer over Genshin, the latter has overtaken it in some other (non-gacha) areas for me and I wish FF14 would take note of those.

[StriderShinryu]

Played both Genshin and Star Rail, and enjoyed both (and may go back to Genshin some day if they ever give the ability to skip the boring, glacially slow dialogue scenes).. but I'd rather they didn't do a crossover. I don't really love almost any of the crossovers in the first place, though, so my first answer would always be: Do more/better FF14 stuff with your resources instead of going to crossovers.

All that said, if they did do a Mihoyo crossover, I'd much prefer it be with Genshin than Star Rail.

[hydralus]

Regarding the predatory practices of gacha (which I agree 100% they are predatory and intended to siphon money), I'm completely fine with it since it makes the rest of the game free. In my eyes, someone with poor impulse control is now subsidizing a game I can play for free, and that's a-ok by me. It's like casinos and smoking and alcohol getting taxed more. Horrible vices that destroy lives but y'know if people are going to get addicted anyway, may as well get something out of it.

[CCheshire]

Regarding the predatory practices of gacha (which I agree 100% they are predatory and intended to siphon money), I'm completely fine with it since it makes the rest of the game free. In my eyes, someone with poor impulse control is now subsidizing a game I can play for free, and that's a-ok by me. It's like casinos and smoking and alcohol getting taxed more. Horrible vices that destroy lives but y'know if people are going to get addicted anyway, may as well get something out of it.

It's not free as I mentioned in the past like everything is built from the ground up up extract as much money from the players regardless if you don't spend anything or not like it will always waste IRL time, FOMO, resources, and limited your progress so ppl are compelled to pay money at every turn even if you think oh the battle pass is a good deal since it will always go EoS once whales quit and you've wasted thousands on nothing.

Yes, I know FFXIV will eventually be shut down, but at least I've not sunk like $5,000 on gacha, so I can pretend that I'm having fun and not promoting gambling to children lol.

I mean, if you play and support gacha it just leads to more new gacha being made over like normal single-player games and therefore nuking my fav games hobby so I can say it's p much why all mobile games market is full of them.

[Aidorouge]

It's not free as I mentioned in the past like everything is built from the ground up up extract as much money from the players regardless if you don't spend anything or not like it will always waste IRL time, FOMO, resources, and limited your progress so ppl are compelled to pay money at every turn even if you think oh the battle pass is a good deal since it will always go EoS once whales quit and you've wasted thousands on nothing.

Yes, I know FFXIV will eventually be shut down, but at least I've not sunk like $5,000 on gacha, so I can pretend that I'm having fun and not promoting gambling to children lol.

I mean, if you play and support gacha it just leads to more new gacha being made over like normal single-player games and therefore nuking my fav games hobby so I can say it's p much why all mobile games market is full of them.

Let's not pretend FF14 doesn't have its own predatory antics with its own cash shop, ranging from cosmetics that they won't let you re-obtain in game to "progress skips". Why, they even recently added a "limited time" collab set of glamours, just in case anyone wants to say "at least they don't have FOMO". There's a new costume piece in the shop right now too, because in the supposedly "FF9 themed expansion" a Garnet outfit was just too lucrative to give away as a free reward. (And the Zidane minion, along with every other pre-order bonus, was its own FOMO too.)

I'm almost positive I've spent more money on FF14 than every other gacha game I've played combined, with at least part of that money being from the increased subscription due to additional retainers or all those times I stayed subscribed just to keep houses. Making people pay for limited resources? Why, I thought only dirty old gacha games did that, Yoshi-P would never!

Oh, right, and they have their own mobile version of FF14 with all the usual gacha trappings, so let's not assume Square-Enix has THAT much integrity.

[DiaDeem]

Queen Eternal's outfit was right out of Star Rail. I'd really enjoy it, personally.

[Absurdity]

"Gacha slop", lol. HSR has more players and makes more money than XIV. It would be embarrassing for them to collab with us, an MMO with a shrinking playerbase and daily DDoS.

Making money hand over fist from people with poor impulse control isn't exactly indicative of a good product.
I do include the glorified 250$ emotes that XIV sells every now and then in this.

[MaxWinter]

Very rarely post on forum since a few months ago and deleted a lot old posts because saw somethings around safety in community but still a massive fan of final fantasy 14 and been in and out a few times also was here at the start as well. saw this topic and wanted respond my thoughts. I got into star rail in 2024 and honestly its a great games and am someone who is not a fan of a lot of industry trends since horse armour however took a year break when the actor strike happened. it was extremely frustrating as a creative myself to see that happen on such a great creative game that Honkai star rail is and have been going through the updated content Amphoreus the last few weeks. I honestly am really surprised by it not just the voice cast returning but also the writing and story quality of it is a lot better than thought it would be.
I do not want ever see FF14 go down the GACHA route but believe a cross over would be great then only problem though is what is going on with star rail at the moment seen they have changed large amounts on content for there 4.0 release due to political issues and this may cause massive issues for any potential crossover between the two games.

Outside this topic just want say looking forward to Final fantasy 7 part 3 when that comes out and of course wherever FF14 goes next. I love the recent dungeon as it was a massive throw back to ff9 from memory (it been a while) fairly close to the original game when you do go to Treno.

[MayuAmakura]

Even if they made one, don't fool yourselves. It will be half-baked thing where you get a fate / dungeon farming and that's it. With rewards being minion, house deco, random cloth armor that nobody cares about and maybe a mount. But events now are so bad that they don't even do fates anymore lmao.

The only good last event was the summer one with that big ship in costa de la sol. Then they decided the ship isn't going to stay forever which is a shame.