Quote Originally Posted by s32ialx View Post
Why can't we have both? I genuinely don't understand the logic that if ward plots have demolition timers, then instanced condos, which are essentially customizable, resizable apartments, must also have timers. That's not parity, that's artificial constraint. It makes no sense.

Permanent housing should be available to everyone, without expiration. And for those who want the outdoor yard aesthetic and accept the risk of demolition, ward plots can still exist, on top of their condo, not instead of it. This isn't an either/or situation. It's about giving players meaningful choice.

Apartments aren't a valid substitute. They're extremely limited, poorly designed, and immersion-breaking. Condos, as proposed, would offer scalable interiors, neighbor visibility, and city-based immersion, whether in Solution 9 or any major hub. The concept is flexible.

And how is it unfair to ward owners if they can have both a plot and a condo? The only "devaluing" happening is superficial, the prestige of owning a plot. That's not a fairness issue, that's entitlement. Housing should be about access and retention, not status.

Permanent condos don't erase wards. They relieve pressure, prevent loss, and give players a home that doesn't vanish because they took a break.
Fairness isn’t about prestige or protecting only your choice, it’s about giving options while respecting everyone’s investment. Trade-offs are inevitable, no matter what system exists. Just so it's clear again, I have never claimed that we shouldn't have instanced & wards.

Having both ward plots and condos doesn’t magically make everything fair. Wards still have scarcity, demo timers, and prestige. Condos could be permanent, larger, or cheaper or hell, more expensive. That’s the reality of trade-offs.

By the same logic, people who said “If you want a house, just move” were called unfair so why is “if you don’t want demo timers, just take a condo” suddenly fine?

It’s about designing systems so players’ time, effort, and choices are respected, and trade-offs are clear. That’s what keeps getting missed.

I want everyone to have a home (in part so we can shut the hell up already) and two because I think everyone should have a home, but it comes with trade-offs that need to be considered.