Ban Service Accounts with more than 1 FC house

[neia]

I have several leveled up characters on several servers, across 3 dcs. I like my fcs as private crews of few friends. I have bought my houses fairly, so I kinda disagree with this statenent

I'll be honest, this attitude just reeks of justification for submarine Gil farming. There's absolutely no legitimate reason your service account should have 3 of the limited quantity of FC plots. FC plots should be for legitimate FCs not plots for you to park your alts in.

A service account can only have 8 FC houses per world. And 7 of those they cannot buy themselves. What you are seeing is someone using multiple accounts and creating FCs with the same tag and name on the houses.

That was one example of the industrial scale. I still think individual players who hoard more than one FC house are just as big of an issue. The industrial Gil farming, whole ward owners are easier to point out.

[Alicie]

Lmao, ban based on what?

[NanaWiloh]

I'll be honest, this attitude just reeks of justification for submarine Gil farming. There's absolutely no legitimate reason your service account should have 3 of the limited quantity of FC plots. FC plots should be for legitimate FCs not plots for you to park your alts in.



That was one example of the industrial scale. I still think individual players who hoard more than one FC house are just as big of an issue. The industrial Gil farming, whole ward owners are easier to point out.

It's not just Gil farmers using what I described Single players use it as well. Two players on matues own nearly entire ward. A FC here on Lamia owns multiple fc homes and they are not Gil farmers. No Gil farmer goes through the pain of decorating too the degree this FC has.

[Arzalis]

SE could just fix the actual problem. If they do what you're suggesting, you'll have some houses go up for a week and then we're right back where we started when they all get bought up.

The problem is ultimately that the housing system is really bad and SE won't do anything about it.

[yesnt]

The FC workshop is the problem. As long as they are tied to houses, this will keep happening. Give every FC access to a workshop without a house and this will stop.

[hydralus]

Ideally I'd prefer they just remove the gil rewards from submersible ventures. And maybe put some property taxes on housing.

[TheGrimace]

It's ridiculous how terribly Eorzea's housing crisis mimics the real world's. XIV's whole housing system needs reform, but until that happens, a limit to ownership of one FC house per account should be enforced.

[Kelg]

I don't know about banning them, but they need to take the houses away and set them as personal houses. There should be no case where you can own multiple houses when the housing in this game is so limited. 1 FC house, 1 personal house per service account is reasonable.

[Burmecia]

FC plots should be for legitimate FCs

Well I'll be honest then too: you sound like a usual suspect hating both the players and the game and screaming your frustrations to the void because of a streak of bad luck with the fairest house acquisition system we have had. Doesn't mean it's perfect, that much I can agree.
But I'm sure you'll get a chance to try a fight club soon yourself since you seem to think that is the only motive anyone would like to have FC house this game.

And sure - I have few submarines, and airships gardening projects because those are perfectly*normal FC activities; and alts, and at one point in time I have mained and raided and roleplayed and pvpd on every dc I have my few fcs on. Fun coincidence, I was actually thinking of moving my focus to one of my side-branches in upcoming months, because imo changing scenery seems like a fun idea for new year.

Only dc I left behind completely was primal, and back then my fc and the house bought in 3.3 found a new owner among my acquaintances for modest compensation because I was in a hurry to get out. And modest because back then moving gil from server to server was a tad more limited effort.

Calling small and/or private fc less legitimate than some other type of fcs is nothing new on this forum. I'm just ever a happy camper for the fact that forum conversation brand "legit" fcs remain largely fictional, and continue to enjoy the same rights as everyone else: right to participate in the lottery for fair chance to win a plot.

Free companies are adventurer-run organizations which allow their members to pool resources, be it items or gil, to accomplish feats that would be difficult or impossible for a single individual.

[neia]

Well I'll be honest then too: you sound like a usual suspect hating both the players and the game and screaming your frustrations to the void because of a streak of bad luck with the fairest house acquisition system we have had.

Calling me “a usual suspect screaming into the void”, ascribing hate, and implying this is just bad lottery luck is just a personal attack rather than an argument. If you want to argue that unlimited FC ownership should remain allowed, just state it directly, no need to pretend anyone is actually attacking legitimate FC's.

Calling small and/or private fc less legitimate than some other type of fcs is nothing new on this forum. I'm just ever a happy camper for the fact that forum conversation brand "legit" fcs remain largely fictional, and continue to enjoy the same rights as everyone else: right to participate in the lottery for fair chance to win a plot.

The lottery is only 'fair' at the entry point. Beyond that, multiple FCs can be transferred to the single service account as I'm sure you're aware.

And sure - I have few submarines, and airships gardening projects because those are perfectly*normal FC activities; and alts, and at one point in time I have mained and raided and roleplayed and pvpd on every dc I have my few fcs on. Fun coincidence, I was actually thinking of moving my focus to one of my side-branches in upcoming months, because imo changing scenery seems like a fun idea for new year.

Listing your personal playstyle history doesn't address the core issue here. One account should not be able to multiply those systems across many finite FC plots when others can't get a single plot at all.

I don't know about banning them, but they need to take the houses away and set them as personal houses. There should be no case where you can own multiple houses when the housing in this game is so limited. 1 FC house, 1 personal house per service account is reasonable.

This is an absolutely sane and agreeable take given the current housing conditions. Yes we can wish for a better system, but basic enforcement of a 1 per account rule would beneficial for the community overall. Housing and GPose 'mains' would be in shambles. I personally know lots on Materia who hoard the very limited large personal houses on their single account spread amongst alt characters. I also believe FC houses should be under extra scrutiny given their utility.

SE could just fix the actual problem. If they do what you're suggesting, you'll have some houses go up for a week and then we're right back where we started when they all get bought up.

The problem is ultimately that the housing system is really bad and SE won't do anything about it.

I don't know if I necessarily agree with your first point. Smaller datacenters this will give legitimate players & their FC's a chance. Eventually those worlds, yes, will go the way of the congested DC's/worlds, if nothing changes. However this does make a big difference to the worlds in which they are pushing for more players to reside.