You think?

[SKAshe]

I think adding more customization options is great! As long as it fits with the lore, art style, and what we've seen from npcs. Thankfully there's a lot that could be added based on this.

Tattoos and piercing need not make your character look like they're from IMVU. There are lore friendly tattoos that I'd like to see added, like the ones on the Skyworker's Singlet, Pagos Chestwrap, or the Yakaku Dogi. I think if they could add these and make them separate from your character, that would be amazing! Keep in mind the devs would need to at least change their body model and texturing somewhat in order to do this, so dunno if tattoos will be coming any time soon. But it would be nice to see as long as it fits with the lore.

Muscle sliders for all races, Au Ra Horns separate from faces, and body sliders are all stuff they could absolutely do while remaining lore friendly. From what I recall. Some npcs have different muscle slider data on races that don't have that option for the player, so it seems to be possible in the engine. It would just take extra storage per-character.

Having different texture options would be great too, I think. Some npc faces already seem use this for some makeup details and stuff like that. One thing I really would like to see is the ability to tint Au Ra scales. Yugiri's scales have a slight green-ish blushy tint to them. Varshaan's scales have some dark overtones. The new Au Ra shown in 7.4 has greenish dark scales with light patches.

Overall I'm of the opinion that if NPCs can look a certain way, they should try to give players similar options as long as it could fit in the lore. Yugiri is just an ordinary Au Ra, after all.

Body scars would also be another awesome thing to add, like what Lord Hien has.

As controversial as the graphics option has been, one thing that it has done is give the devs the ability to easily port features from one face to the next. That's why they're excited about adding more mole options and scars to all the faces. It can be done easily now, where previously it would have been a very difficult task. It also gives them the ability to more easily add face variations/sliders to the faces. It also could allow them to easily separate the au ra horns, since they all line up cleanly with the universal face mesh now. I really hope they do this.

I think the only thing holding them back now is the increased amount of character data that would be needed to store the new features, with the increased server overhead that would entail. In order to implement more moles and scars they would need to do this anyway, though so I suspect we could be seeing some extra options in 8.0.

TLDR: You can add more customization options without ruining the art style/lore, and I think they should. The graphics update makes it easier for them to do so.

[NecroprincessCleo]

If you admit it’s an unappealing "turn-off", you’ve already conceded the point. The difference between us is that I value the virtue of honesty over performative politeness. You acknowledge the visual pollution but choose to defend it out of a misplaced sense of virtue. That’s how neighborhoods decline, other people watching their neighbors lawn turn into a junkyard and saying, "well, it’s their choice to be trashy."

there is a huge difference of having your yard filled with "garbage and overgrown grass kind of stuff" and having your yard with personal decor which is exactly why i think HOAs should be illegal.

Using your yard example, thats like calling someone's home trash because they have Halloween decorations out year-round, with personal flavor hell my dream is to have a place where i can build a personal cemetery in the front. comparing a Style to.. garbage trashy lawn is just wrong of you

[ElysiumDragon]

The more customisation the better.

"But what if it isn't lore compatible?"

It also isn't 'lore-compatible' for my Lalafell to ride around on an exact replica of Cruise Chaser, but here we are.

"But what about piercings and tattoos?"

They found piercings and tattoos on a 5,000 year old preserved mummy. If glorified cavemen can have them, then so can our Warrior of Light.

[Connor]

I mean, given the amount of modern street clothes they’ve given us it’s not like more modern day aesthetic customization options would be that out place. Plus I mean earrings exist so they gotta have some way to pierce stuff, right? Lol

It’s not my aesthetic personally but I don’t see why it would matter if other people had the option.

[SKAshe]

I mean the thing about solution 9 is it did make a lot of that stuff "lore friendly" and fit the art style, I guess... As long as we're talking from the events of Dawntrail onward and the inevitable technological exchange that happens every time two countries with differing technological levels come into contact. I'm personally have very mixed feelings on the solution 9 stuff, to say the least, but I hope they don't forget about the area since forgetting about it just wouldn't make sense from a lore perspective. Thankfully it takes time, but the impact that solution 9 has on the rest of the world should be massive over the coming in-game years. Not doing so would be a borderline retcon, IMO. With the collapse of Garlemald and the introduction of Solution 9. Pandora's box has been opened.

Many of these mods have a particular IMVU look to them that's hard to put my finger on, that just makes them completely out of place, even considering Solution 9. I think it's something about the details in the textures or something... But a lot of the modded streetware looks different from what the devs have released, in a way that's hard to describe. This is a good thing. They should stick to the FFXIV's art style. As long as they do that, customization options are awesome!

[njorun]

Honestly I just hope they let us have more options in general. Like, let all the races have scars, let more races have a muscle slider, let Au Ra choose their horns without being tied to face. give Miqo more ear pattern options like the one male face does, there are so many strange and arbitrary feeling things with the customization in this game.

People are gonna do all of this with mods anyway, regardless of whether or not it's allowed by the ToS. They have for years already. If Square wants people to stop using mods, why not start beefing up the customization options?

Then again, the majority of people who use mods on the regular aren't just going to stop using mods because there's more base game options, but that shouldn't be the reason the rest of us have to suffer. I love my WoL and her design, but it would be awesome to get more stuff to play with.

(I will personally sacrifice the most pristine hecatomb if it means getting a nicer looking freckle facepaint.)

[Destati]

I do this with male auras

Charming. But you do you.

[Aidorouge]

If you admit it’s an unappealing "turn-off", you’ve already conceded the point. The difference between us is that I value the virtue of honesty over performative politeness. You acknowledge the visual pollution but choose to defend it out of a misplaced sense of virtue. That’s how neighborhoods decline, other people watching their neighbors lawn turn into a junkyard and saying, "well, it’s their choice to be trashy."

I've conceded nothing, I just choose to not be a judgemental busybody about other people's preferences. THAT is the difference. It would be akin to me heckling and harassing somebody for what they put in their outdoor furnishing slots and then acting like they can't judge mine... which is pretty much just two half-naked retainers and nothing else, an eyesore for many I'm sure (assuming anyone ever visits the Goblet on Maduin).

But if you want to insist that people should call out other people's fit, you're welcome to open yourself up to like criticism because you can't be "honest" without being "fair". And right out the gate I really don't care for any hats or things that obstruct my face (just like how I don't wear earrings), but hey, it's your choice to be... whatever it is you thought you were pulling off. (Lord knows what you're dressed like from the neck down.)

And before you ask, I'm pretty sure my own attire offends someone's sensibilities, or they think I'm "everything wrong with FF14" and why they should be able to make people appear in "default" outfits on their screen, and they're certainly welcome to black-list me the moment I cross their path if I disgust them so.





Why, we could even go one step further into that whole "you should only play what you are IRL" nonsense some people bring up in an attempt to police other people's character creation choice. I'm a white guy (presumed human) in the flesh, so the idea I'm playing a black catgirl in-game probably makes someone clutch their pearls and make all sorts of assumptions about me, though the only one they would be correct on is that I am in fact a pervert. I don't ERP though because that's just weird to me, but people can do whatever in their own house so long as they keep it out of my yard. (And now I'm wishing we had some kind of water-hose spray emote just in case they don't.)

[AlessaImpera]

I've conceded nothing, I just choose to not be a judgemental busybody about other people's preferences. THAT is the difference. It would be akin to me heckling and harassing somebody for what they put in their outdoor furnishing slots and then acting like they can't judge mine... which is pretty much just two half-naked retainers and nothing else, an eyesore for many I'm sure (assuming anyone ever visits the Goblet on Maduin).

But if you want to insist that people should call out other people's fit, you're welcome to open yourself up to like criticism because you can't be "honest" without being "fair". And right out the gate I really don't care for any hats or things that obstruct my face (just like how I don't wear earrings), but hey, it's your choice to be... whatever it is you thought you were pulling off. (Lord knows what you're dressed like from the neck down.)

And before you ask, I'm pretty sure my own attire offends someone's sensibilities, or they think I'm "everything wrong with FF14" and why they should be able to make people appear in "default" outfits on their screen, and they're certainly welcome to black-list me the moment I cross their path if I disgust them so.





Why, we could even go one step further into that whole "you should only play what you are IRL" nonsense some people bring up in an attempt to police other people's character creation choice. I'm a white guy (presumed human) in the flesh, so the idea I'm playing a black catgirl in-game probably makes someone clutch their pearls and make all sorts of assumptions about me, though the only one they would be correct on is that I am in fact a pervert. I don't ERP though because that's just weird to me, but people can do whatever in their own house so long as they keep it out of my yard. (And now I'm wishing we had some kind of water-hose spray emote just in case they don't.)

Are you ok?

[TheRealDesastr]

If you admit it’s an unappealing "turn-off", you’ve already conceded the point. The difference between us is that I value the virtue of honesty over performative politeness. You acknowledge the visual pollution but choose to defend it out of a misplaced sense of virtue. That’s how neighborhoods decline, other people watching their neighbors lawn turn into a junkyard and saying, "well, it’s their choice to be trashy."

This is such a pathetic HOA karen thing to say including everything else you've been spouting. I can use the same argument against any of the aethetics you like and demand to never see it or have anything you want added because 'to me it's an ugly eyesore and therefore doesn't belong in the game'. What even is this logic...? Why do you, specifically, get to dictate what's 'trashy' in a video game where we have dyes that range from vomit to pink eyesore and everything in between...?

Because even if you do have some ridiculous notion of authority, you've failed. If everything in the game is something you already like... that's an obvious lie and you're already spouting pointless nonsense. This whole 'higher authority' attitude is laughable. I couldn't imagine being as miserable as 'well I don't like the style and if I see it it ruins my experience so it shouldn't exist and other people are the problem',what a way to live.

This community, I swear to gods.