You think?

[Aidorouge]

Why would I not talk badly about something that offends my eyes and sense of harmony? Honesty is a virtue after all. It’s exactly like property value: you can do what you want inside your own house, but the moment you let the lawn turn into a junkyard and paint your fence with graffiti, you’re dragging down the value of the entire neighborhood.

Oh bloody hell...

I'm not a fan of tattoos or piercings either, would even outright call them a turn-off with how much I don't find them appealing, but I still acknowledge them as body art and that they may hold value and significance to the person who gets them as its still "their body their choice". We don't get to dictate their personal aesthetic any more than they can dictate ours, least of all in a video game where even the company behind it puts a lot of emphasis on personal style, and allows for some tattoos and piercings already.

[AlessaImpera]

Oh bloody hell...

I'm not a fan of tattoos or piercings either, would even outright call them a turn-off with how much I don't find them appealing, but I still acknowledge them as body art and that they may hold value and significance to the person who gets them as its still "their body their choice". We don't get to dictate their personal aesthetic any more than they can dictate ours, least of all in a video game where even the company behind it puts a lot of emphasis on personal style, and allows for some tattoos and piercings already.

If you admit it’s an unappealing "turn-off", you’ve already conceded the point. The difference between us is that I value the virtue of honesty over performative politeness. You acknowledge the visual pollution but choose to defend it out of a misplaced sense of virtue. That’s how neighborhoods decline, other people watching their neighbors lawn turn into a junkyard and saying, "well, it’s their choice to be trashy."

[NecroprincessCleo]

If you admit it’s an unappealing "turn-off", you’ve already conceded the point. The difference between us is that I value the virtue of honesty over performative politeness. You acknowledge the visual pollution but choose to defend it out of a misplaced sense of virtue. That’s how neighborhoods decline, other people watching their neighbors lawn turn into a junkyard and saying, "well, it’s their choice to be trashy."

there is a huge difference of having your yard filled with "garbage and overgrown grass kind of stuff" and having your yard with personal decor which is exactly why i think HOAs should be illegal.

Using your yard example, thats like calling someone's home trash because they have Halloween decorations out year-round, with personal flavor hell my dream is to have a place where i can build a personal cemetery in the front. comparing a Style to.. garbage trashy lawn is just wrong of you

[Aidorouge]

If you admit it’s an unappealing "turn-off", you’ve already conceded the point. The difference between us is that I value the virtue of honesty over performative politeness. You acknowledge the visual pollution but choose to defend it out of a misplaced sense of virtue. That’s how neighborhoods decline, other people watching their neighbors lawn turn into a junkyard and saying, "well, it’s their choice to be trashy."

I've conceded nothing, I just choose to not be a judgemental busybody about other people's preferences. THAT is the difference. It would be akin to me heckling and harassing somebody for what they put in their outdoor furnishing slots and then acting like they can't judge mine... which is pretty much just two half-naked retainers and nothing else, an eyesore for many I'm sure (assuming anyone ever visits the Goblet on Maduin).

But if you want to insist that people should call out other people's fit, you're welcome to open yourself up to like criticism because you can't be "honest" without being "fair". And right out the gate I really don't care for any hats or things that obstruct my face (just like how I don't wear earrings), but hey, it's your choice to be... whatever it is you thought you were pulling off. (Lord knows what you're dressed like from the neck down.)

And before you ask, I'm pretty sure my own attire offends someone's sensibilities, or they think I'm "everything wrong with FF14" and why they should be able to make people appear in "default" outfits on their screen, and they're certainly welcome to black-list me the moment I cross their path if I disgust them so.





Why, we could even go one step further into that whole "you should only play what you are IRL" nonsense some people bring up in an attempt to police other people's character creation choice. I'm a white guy (presumed human) in the flesh, so the idea I'm playing a black catgirl in-game probably makes someone clutch their pearls and make all sorts of assumptions about me, though the only one they would be correct on is that I am in fact a pervert. I don't ERP though because that's just weird to me, but people can do whatever in their own house so long as they keep it out of my yard. (And now I'm wishing we had some kind of water-hose spray emote just in case they don't.)

[AlessaImpera]

I've conceded nothing, I just choose to not be a judgemental busybody about other people's preferences. THAT is the difference. It would be akin to me heckling and harassing somebody for what they put in their outdoor furnishing slots and then acting like they can't judge mine... which is pretty much just two half-naked retainers and nothing else, an eyesore for many I'm sure (assuming anyone ever visits the Goblet on Maduin).

But if you want to insist that people should call out other people's fit, you're welcome to open yourself up to like criticism because you can't be "honest" without being "fair". And right out the gate I really don't care for any hats or things that obstruct my face (just like how I don't wear earrings), but hey, it's your choice to be... whatever it is you thought you were pulling off. (Lord knows what you're dressed like from the neck down.)

And before you ask, I'm pretty sure my own attire offends someone's sensibilities, or they think I'm "everything wrong with FF14" and why they should be able to make people appear in "default" outfits on their screen, and they're certainly welcome to black-list me the moment I cross their path if I disgust them so.





Why, we could even go one step further into that whole "you should only play what you are IRL" nonsense some people bring up in an attempt to police other people's character creation choice. I'm a white guy (presumed human) in the flesh, so the idea I'm playing a black catgirl in-game probably makes someone clutch their pearls and make all sorts of assumptions about me, though the only one they would be correct on is that I am in fact a pervert. I don't ERP though because that's just weird to me, but people can do whatever in their own house so long as they keep it out of my yard. (And now I'm wishing we had some kind of water-hose spray emote just in case they don't.)

Are you ok?

[Aidorouge]

Are you ok?

Well, I tried to explain where you erred and how your own logic could be used against you, but you seem committed to whatever act you're trying to play for responses.

Thankfully it's equally easy to block people on the forums when they're an eyesore here too.

[AlessaImpera]

Well, I tried to explain where you erred and how your own logic could be used against you, but you seem committed to whatever act you're trying to play for responses.

Thankfully it's equally easy to block people on the forums when they're an eyesore here too.

the only thing you really did, is showcase your exhibitionistic tendencies and an unhealthy persecution fetish

[RedLolly]

the only thing you really did, is showcase your exhibitionistic tendencies and an unhealthy persecution fetish

This reads like you would wear a full diving suit in the swimming pool and get angry when others say it's impractical and odd. It's bizarre and socially out of place for that environment, but since its proper swim wear in other contexts and modest, the OTHERS are wrong for their confusion and for dressing in trunks and bikinis.

Like, the only word that comes to mind is puritanical. And your avatar is really cool! I like the style you went with! Nothing about her would be changed unless YOU wanted her to!

[TheRealDesastr]

If you admit it’s an unappealing "turn-off", you’ve already conceded the point. The difference between us is that I value the virtue of honesty over performative politeness. You acknowledge the visual pollution but choose to defend it out of a misplaced sense of virtue. That’s how neighborhoods decline, other people watching their neighbors lawn turn into a junkyard and saying, "well, it’s their choice to be trashy."

This is such a pathetic HOA karen thing to say including everything else you've been spouting. I can use the same argument against any of the aethetics you like and demand to never see it or have anything you want added because 'to me it's an ugly eyesore and therefore doesn't belong in the game'. What even is this logic...? Why do you, specifically, get to dictate what's 'trashy' in a video game where we have dyes that range from vomit to pink eyesore and everything in between...?

Because even if you do have some ridiculous notion of authority, you've failed. If everything in the game is something you already like... that's an obvious lie and you're already spouting pointless nonsense. This whole 'higher authority' attitude is laughable. I couldn't imagine being as miserable as 'well I don't like the style and if I see it it ruins my experience so it shouldn't exist and other people are the problem',what a way to live.

This community, I swear to gods.

[AlessaImpera]

relax a bit, you seem to be struggling quite a bit with someone not being performatively nice, and you might be taking it a bit too personal.