FIX GARUDA!!!

[Chardrizard]

BLA BLA BLA QQQQQQQ SANDY HERE SANDY THERE QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ.

Fix is coming, why in the name of the Old and New Gods are people still whining/bitching regarding this issue? People that have been using BLM burn method and never won it normally will ends up dying when fixes comes, what do people expect to achieve from this argument? banning those exploiters?

[fusional]

i dunno but enjoy your "limited time only" strat while it lasts, guy

[Rydin]

the fact that the so much of community fights tooth and nail to white knight exploiting/exploiters every major patch is just incredible, and only serves to underscore how our community is comprised primarily of carebears drunk with entitlement, rallying against anything resembling challenge and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter.

while part of the blame rests on square's shoulders for not making more of an example of people who choose to exploit even after devs (and yoshi himself) make it clear what they're doing is taking advantage of bugs in game design, at the very least the community should have the fortitude to sack it up and admit it's not cool.

but people instead choose to delusionally defend exploiting, because all they really care about is that they benefit from it. and their primary argument is "well, it doesn't affect you so why do you care?"

99% of anything anyone does on the planet doesn't affect you. so do we just stop convicting criminals of crimes simply because it has no direct impact on us individually? that's retarded.

no, this isn't real life. but just as there are rules in real life, there are rules in games. especially when the game is a sandbox where lots and lots of other people are playing. without rules it's anarchy. if you want anarchy, play single player console games.

bottom line.

I know..... I just think the day they figured out it was a design flaw, they should just patch it right away. I would have been fine with them fixing the Garuda thing when they first noticed it

[Velhart]

If anything, I am glad this exploit happened. Pretty much told the developers that they need to pay closer attention to what they make and test every little thing you can before releasing something.

[Firon]

Wouldn't the blm burn strat not work anymore. cause when she goes into auto phase 3 wouldn't you need more melee dps to kill her clone. Cause if you can't kill that one fast enough don't they auto kill you with that blast that does like 3k dmg.

[Elexia]

I know..... I just think the day they figured out it was a design flaw, they should just patch it right away. I would have been fine with them fixing the Garuda thing when they first noticed it

It's called Golden Week, oh it's also called: "We're busy working on the next patch so you won't complain, but we also need to take a look at the design (analyze) and come up with an appropriate fix for said hot fix."

If anything, I am glad this exploit happened. Pretty much told the developers that they need to pay closer attention to what they make and test every little thing you can before releasing something.

You can exploit in any MMO, no matter if you have 820 Einsteins on your development or 20 monkies, players can and will find ways to exploit something, stop thinking they don't pay attention because if you've played any other MMO, especially of Korean and Chinese origin you'd realize very quickly no matter what is done people will get around anything.

[Rydin]

It's called Golden Week, oh it's also called: "We're busy working on the next patch so you won't complain, but we also need to take a look at the design (analyze) and come up with an appropriate fix for said hot fix."

I know.. I know... Im not complaining

You can exploit in any MMO, no matter if you have 820 Einsteins on your development or 20 monkies, players can and will find ways to exploit something, stop thinking they don't pay attention because if you've played any other MMO, especially of Korean and Chinese origin you'd realize very quickly no matter what is done people will get around anything.

True too... but the thing is.. the more you test, the less there is for players to find....
Players should have to go through hell and high water to find a design flaw.... not just inadvertently burn at the right time

[Lux_Rayna]

Yes, but by "abusing" you mean doing exactly what BLMs were designed to do... nuking
I understand what you guys are saying... I just have to play the devil's advocate here

There is no argument. Abusing a mechanic is still abusing a mechanic, regardless of whether you are using valid mechanics to do it or not. If I got 1mil gil every time I sold a copper ore to an npc, farming copper and selling it repeatedly is exploiting a broken mechanic. Yes I'm still just "npcing copper like I'm allowed to do," but now I"m doing it for the express purpose of abusing a bug. Running into a wall is no sin, but if you're doing it to skip through an entire dungeon its an exploit. An exploit is an exploit, I appreciate your attempt but there is no wiggle room for this one.

If a stop sign is poorly made, and it falls under it's own weight and cars no longer stop at that particular intersection....
That stop sign (And in turn, that intersection) are no longer working as intended...
Whether you KNOW the stop sign was supposed to be there or not, you are not legally bound to stop at the corner, and therefore cannot be penalized for failing to stop

But that works different from a game. Once you learn something is an exploit, you are legally bound by the terms of service and conditions (which you signed) to cease and desist. Failure to do so is a bannable offense. Yoshi *does* have the right to ban anyone continuing to use this exploit you know, as they are clearly violating the contract which they signed in order to play the game. He doesn't ban them out of his good graces, don't get it confused. There is absolutely no wiggle room here at all. Yoshi clarified that his is an unintended mechanic, and ppl who are intentionally trying to abuse that mechanic are exploiting the game. Its no different than the tons of other examples I gave. I just find it amazing how anyone would even bother to rationalize it at all, as there's nothing to rationalize. Game exploits are easily defined, easily recognized, and easily avoided. There's really nothing to defend.

[Rydin]

Yoshi *does* have the right to ban anyone

As vague as their terms and conditions are, you're right
Honestly, if he wanted to, Yoshi could probably ban pretty much any one of us for pretty much anything and be legally justified in doing so.

I just say people who do the so called "exploit" don't have as much fun on the fight as people who don't... and thats enough for me

[fusional]

Wouldn't the blm burn strat not work anymore. cause when she goes into auto phase 3 wouldn't you need more melee dps to kill her clone. Cause if you can't kill that one fast enough don't they auto kill you with that blast that does like 3k dmg.

right. and only having the tank + 1 bard on her generally won't get her down fast enough, since the tank can't use anything but frontal combo or risk turning her and stunning/knocking back/interrupting casters, and the bard can't really use their distance combos if she summons east winds.