What could go wrong it they put CT in MSQ roulette?

[Voidmage]

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Are we talking around each other by chance?
Those raids as "forced" content like CT would be my "personal" preference (like I wrote before).

Just using those characters and telling players to either do those raids or miss out on the references or just read the encyclopedia would be my realistic solution.

If you don't have a problem with for example Gaia just popping up in that vein then all is fine.
My problem are those who refuse to do those raids and then complain about the writers using them as references like back then in Shb before CT was mandatory.
Those are the people I mean when I say they deserve to be told to "suck it up".

Eden has a very strong meaning for other shards.
If they skip that thing in the MSQ just because some players miss out on it by their own choice then that's where I have a problem with.

Edit:
I also already gave my other solution with CT in that they should remake that thing so it's at least not a boring rush fest.
I am sorry but I just don't agree with the roadblock argument.

Edit2:
If people want to buy a skip because they are afraid what other people think of them then so be it frankly.
I promise you, no one thinks more than a few seconds why CT popped but are more annoyed that it popped in the first place and I have never met someone who blames a sprout because then at least it had a reason.

If you somehow think otherwise then we simply have to agree to disagree.

[Tsiron]

It's not even like my own experience was made better by knowing who G'raha Tia was BEFORE I got to Shadowbringers given how much I don't like him AFTER it was over with. (Which makes me doubtful I would even like Gaia given everyone who fanboys over G'raha and I don't know why, so she's probably ALSO overrated.)

can confidently tell you she isn't for two very simple reasons 1) not a male character 2) doesn't worship the ground the WoL treads on

[Voidmage]

I just don't want to be forced into doing side content I don't want to, because it's not going to endear me to that content, it's going to make me drag my feet on getting it done. Back in the day it took me months before I got around to Crystal Tower because I really REALLY didn't want to do it because I knew I wasn't going to like large-scale raids in FF14 the same way I didn't like them in WoW or SWTOR.

Admittedly, Crystal Tower wasn't so bad, but that's because its intentionally made easy (which of course is the thing people keep asking to change the most). Mhach and Ivalice though? Not so much... and given my performance in Omega (versus the easier Alexander) I don't want to imagine being yanked into Eden. You can have Gaia show up later in the MSQ if you want, I'm not going to complain, I'm just not going to care that she's there as much as you do.

Well then you are basically saying you are ok with my idea in explaining it all with that character codex entry book (I always forget the name of).

Like I said before, "forcing" those raids would be my "personal" wish, nothing more.

Gaia was just an example. If you are fine with missing out on references or are fine with reading those up then all is good for me and you aren't the type of player I mean with my statement.
Nevertheless I stay with that statement because the void arc already basically ignored our friends from the thirteens we had made earlier or the MSQ basically ignoring the heart of Sabik entirely.

Whatever the case in the end, it's all just opinions either way.

[Brandr]

Tell that to DT relic step where you HAVE to do alliance raid roulette.

You don't have to get relic weapons. There are other weapons in the game.

[SamuraiMiqo]

It would just lead to more people instantly leaving as soon as it loads, which would make things even harder for new players

[RedLolly]

It's not even all of CT and Mhach, though. World of Darkness is "mostly" fine (Cloud of Darkness gets hit way harder than the other bosses for some reason), and Dun Scaith is ok. It's the first and second tiers of the raids that got obliterated by level sync.

I recall a raid falling apart because our DPS was just low enough to last until the snake's bad breath phase. I hadn't seen it in so long I totally forgot about it, too. But I think Syrcus Tower has it the worst of them all.

I think the best solution to this may be just the game outright having a prompt letting players know that the next scene will be using characters and places introduced in "SoandSo Content" and give the option right there to teleport right to the NPC that starts the quest chain, and it the player is partway through the quest series, allow them to pause and finish it. Otherwise, give them a warning they will be missing context but allow them to move on with MSQ. FFXIV is so damn big at this point that some players absolutely need that even if they want to have all the story beforehand.

[MsQi]

That will never, ever happen.

Queues are separated by the number of people that are queueing in.

Expert only has 1 tank, 2 dps, 1 healer
Trials only has 2 tanks, 4 dps, 2 healers
Alliance has 3 tanks, 15 dps, 6 healers

You can't mix-and-match. That's not how queues work. That's like asking a trial to be in MSQ.

Labyrinth of the Ancients and Crystal Tower are designed to be easier so people get used to the massive number of players in one setting.

Just enjoy that it's a no-brainer and you're getting EZPZ tomes. Why is this even an issue?

You can queue for individuel things that are different numbers so I don't think that is a problem besides that they just choose to do it that way.

MSQ content was more fun when it was 8 players.

[Kaurhz]

At this point just put Crystal Tower raid series into its own roulette pool, or make the initial duty unlock mandatory for each expansion, e.g., to the point where people are required to have unlocked (and/or completed) the initial raid instance for each expansion.

Regardless, they do need to do something, I think... As it is really egregious.

[Supersnow845]

They just need to lock the alliance roulette if you can take something unlocked that you don’t have unlocked

You shouldn’t be able to use a roulette only having 1/5th of its duties unlocked

[Asari5]

maybe they should just take the time to change it completely.
since we dont see anything from the fights in labyrinth, syrcus tower and void ark anyway they should just give it the moogle trial / arr dungeons treatment