What could go wrong it they put CT in MSQ roulette?

[vincexorcized]

Genuinely asking.

A good 80% of the time queuing for daily raids is going to be this god damn crystal tower. Would it badly impact the game in any meaningful way if they move it to MSQ roulette?

Doing roulette shouldn’t feel like a job. I want to level up while having fun, which is not the case here as it is the only way to gain fast exp. Doing dailies.

Or maybe yellow quests should give decent amount of exp to justify anyone skipping dailies and lvling somewhere else.

[OliverQ]

Only downside would probably be that less people queue for MSQ roulette because it takes awhile to do, especially since it seems like 90% of them are Praetorium. So less people queueing means it's harder for actual newer players to fill CT raids.

[YumieYumiki]

Only downside would probably be that less people queue for MSQ roulette because it takes awhile to do, especially since it seems like 90% of them are Praetorium. So less people queueing means it's harder for actual newer players to fill CT raids.

They can remove Prae from the MSQ roulette, it has duty support now.

[Veritas-Ancora]

That will never, ever happen.

Queues are separated by the number of people that are queueing in.

Expert only has 1 tank, 2 dps, 1 healer
Trials only has 2 tanks, 4 dps, 2 healers
Alliance has 3 tanks, 15 dps, 6 healers

You can't mix-and-match. That's not how queues work. That's like asking a trial to be in MSQ.

Labyrinth of the Ancients and Crystal Tower are designed to be easier so people get used to the massive number of players in one setting.

Just enjoy that it's a no-brainer and you're getting EZPZ tomes. Why is this even an issue?

[PyurBlue]

That will never, ever happen.

Queues are separated by the number of people that are queueing in.

Except the Mentor Roulette queue, which has the restriction of not allowing parties to queue.

Labyrinth of the Ancients and Crystal Tower are designed to be easier so people get used to the massive number of players in one setting.

Just enjoy that it's a no-brainer and you're getting EZPZ tomes. Why is this even an issue?

They're boring, which makes them the worst things to get in a roulette. The solution to this is to let the people who want to queue for low effort content get their own roulette while the people looking for engagement can queue for other stuff.

[SyferU]

That will never, ever happen.

Queues are separated by the number of people that are queueing in.

Expert only has 1 tank, 2 dps, 1 healer
Trials only has 2 tanks, 4 dps, 2 healers
Alliance has 3 tanks, 15 dps, 6 healers

You can't mix-and-match. That's not how queues work. That's like asking a trial to be in MSQ.

Labyrinth of the Ancients and Crystal Tower are designed to be easier so people get used to the massive number of players in one setting.

Just enjoy that it's a no-brainer and you're getting EZPZ tomes. Why is this even an issue?

Isn't this a straight up lie? Mentor roullette does exactly this.

[Striker44]

Isn't this a straight up lie? Mentor roullette does exactly this.

It's disappointing to see not only such a comment toward a fellow forum-goer, but people actually "liking" it, when it's straight up false. No, mentor roulette does not do that. Mentor roulette takes the people that queue into it and then feeds them into *other* instances that need people. It does not form its own groups like other roulettes. For example, if 1 tank, 1 healer, and 2 dps join Mentor, it doesn't take those 4 mentors and put them together in their own group - it sends them to other groups that need each of those roles.

Unlike said mentor roulette, every other roulette forms groups directly from its own queue. If you tried putting Alliance raids in MSQ, it would never pop, because every time you had 1 tank, 1 healer, and 2 dps in the queue, it would group them together and generate a 4-person instance from the relevant MSQ options. You would never get the 3 tanks, 6 healers, and 15 dps you need for the Alliance raids.

And we wonder why this forum has the reputation it does...

[SyferU]

It's disappointing to see not only such a comment toward a fellow forum-goer, but people actually "liking" it, when it's straight up false. No, mentor roulette does not do that. Mentor roulette takes the people that queue into it and then feeds them into *other* instances that need people. It does not form its own groups like other roulettes. For example, if 1 tank, 1 healer, and 2 dps join Mentor, it doesn't take those 4 mentors and put them together in their own group - it sends them to other groups that need each of those roles.

Unlike said mentor roulette, every other roulette forms groups directly from its own queue. If you tried putting Alliance raids in MSQ, it would never pop, because every time you had 1 tank, 1 healer, and 2 dps in the queue, it would group them together and generate a 4-person instance from the relevant MSQ options. You would never get the 3 tanks, 6 healers, and 15 dps you need for the Alliance raids.

so I was right, mentor roulette feeds you into different sized queues.

[Astronis]

That will never, ever happen.

Queues are separated by the number of people that are queueing in.

Expert only has 1 tank, 2 dps, 1 healer
Trials only has 2 tanks, 4 dps, 2 healers
Alliance has 3 tanks, 15 dps, 6 healers

You can't mix-and-match. That's not how queues work. That's like asking a trial to be in MSQ.

Labyrinth of the Ancients and Crystal Tower are designed to be easier so people get used to the massive number of players in one setting.

Just enjoy that it's a no-brainer and you're getting EZPZ tomes. Why is this even an issue?

There is exactly one roulette that does mix-and-match on duty sizes and allows parties to queue into it--Guildhest. And you will never, EVER, randomly end up in Solemn Trinity.

I expect the same thing would happen if an Alliance raid was added to a roulette that otherwise only had four-man duties in it--the Alliances would never pop and queueing into them outside the roulette would end up taking 45-90 minutes to fill the way Solemn Trinity does.

Mentor roulette is its own thing, and even in that...despite the requirement of doing damned near everything queueable in the game in order to unlock it, I can't even remember the last time I landed in an Alliance Raid via Mentor. There are too many other, smaller groups that need one person to fill them.