What could go wrong it they put CT in MSQ roulette?

[Appleboops]

Yknow .. I just stopped doing the Alliance Raid roulette for this reason O.o problem solved
But yea, I have a similar "qualm" with the fact that the Infrit, Garuda, and Titan low-level fights are in the "Leveling" roulette .. those are "Trials" as well but they're 4-man content so they can't go into the Trial roulette. I wish they could because they're tedious to get so often but it is what it is. I see the Roulette as a job at this point, a grind where the cost is time spent assisting lower or newer players, and the reward is Tomes and a big XP chunk.

[vincexorcized]

I also want them to either make more raids either mandatory or at least write stories assuming the player has done them at the time. If leaving them optional at least note that it's recommended they play those prior

I’m all for it too!

[Appleboops]

Similarly I wish they'd put the Heavensward and Stormblood final MSQs into the MSQ Roulette .. just to vary it a bit more O.o
Though that would mean they'd need to make the cutscenes in those runs unskippable, eh I'd still prefer it that way though

[Espon]

It would be better if they either fixed Crystal Tower raids so they weren't so boring and/or made it so other raids are more likely to pop if you have them unlocked.

Either that or turn them into a trio of 4-man dungeons.

[Jeeqbit]

What would happen is we would always get the Heavensward alliance raids and then eventually get sick of those as well. Or, whichever one the majority of people in queue tend to have unlocked.

I believe far less people queue for Main Scenario roulette. Because of that, new players would struggle to fill the queue as often and struggle to progress MSQ as fast. As such, mentor roulette may begin to match you into CT, which in my experience it has never, ever done except "in progress" when someone exits and needs a refill.

[Arrius]

What would happen is we would always get the Heavensward alliance raids and then eventually get sick of those as well. Or, whichever one the majority of people in queue tend to have unlocked.

Or complain about the long ones with Nier, or the "complicated" ones like Ridorana.

[PyurBlue]

What would happen is we would always get the Heavensward alliance raids and then eventually get sick of those as well.

We have data for this. It suggests that this would not happen and that the reason for CT's overwhelming presence is only because it's forced by the MSQ. If CT was removed the alliance roulette would likely act like a random roulette:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...te_statistics/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...for_1y90_days/

Two different trials, CT heavily inflated, mid level raids more or less even, maybe a slight bias for current raids

[Jeeqbit]

We have data for this. It suggests that this would not happen and that the reason for CT's overwhelming presence is only because it's forced by the MSQ. If CT was removed the alliance roulette would likely act like a random roulette

All I know is this:

It didn't used to be forced by MSQ. And back when it wasn't forced by MSQ, it was still usually CT. And that's why we reasoned it was just because out of 24 people, 1 of them is bound to be leveling a level 50-59 job.

In a similar way, Normal Raids roulette is almost always Fist of the Father. Because out of 8 people, the lowest level job in the matching system is probably 60-69, dragging all the higher level ones into the only raid they can be matched into.

The difference with Normal Raids roulette is you can't argue Alexander is required by the MSQ.

[Voidmage]

All I know is this:

It didn't used to be forced by MSQ. And back when it wasn't forced by MSQ, it was still usually CT. And that's why we reasoned it was just because out of 24 people, 1 of them is bound to be leveling a level 50-59 job.

In a similar way, Normal Raids roulette is almost always Fist of the Father. Because out of 8 people, the lowest level job in the matching system is probably 60-69, dragging all the higher level ones into the only raid they can be matched into.

The difference with Normal Raids roulette is you can't argue Alexander is required by the MSQ.

Uh no.

Back then it was mostly CT because:
A - The pool of available raids was smaller
B - People where ilvl cheesing en masse to the point you almost always saw someone switch gear in the duty

Only Fist of the father is also subjective imo.
I get 8 man raids across the board with most being Shb and DT actually. The 8 man raids are way better spread out across the board.

I think the complaints about the Alex raids being so common is less prevalent is simply because they're fast. The devs have mentioned years ago that they considered making Eden MSQ, meaning they want to use Gaia. It'll turn the 8-man series into an Eden farm just the same.

I really wish they would have the balls to just use things from the optional content for MSQ and tell everyone who refuses to do them to suck it up and complete them if they want to experience the entire story or find another solution because it's becoming ridiculous with all the tiptoeing.