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  1. #31
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    DynnDiablos's Avatar
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    Shai Rae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    I don't know so much. A discussion regarding this, on a FFXIV based Discord server I'm on, resulted in several friends rebuking my thoughts regarding the game being built around the MSQ.
    There was very much an opinion of 'the MSQ prevents you doing anything with your friends".
    Seeing as I only play this game for the MSQ, if that takes a backseat and it becomes less story oriented, I will probably just quit.
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    "The worst foe lies within the self."

  2. #32
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    Medim Azurarok
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    he does also mention not wanting players to have to play hundreds of hours to get to a point where the game is enjoyable.

    I think that could mean creating a new jumping off point, which imo would take a soft reboot, like throwing the WoL into a new shard alone with amnesia and levels reset, or actually making the current new player experience better and having better things for everyone to do in ARR zones
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  3. #33
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    Raim Surion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    I don't know so much. A discussion regarding this, on a FFXIV based Discord server I'm on, resulted in several friends rebuking my thoughts regarding the game being built around the MSQ.
    There was very much an opinion of 'the MSQ prevents you doing anything with your friends".
    It does, but thats no reason to remove the MSQ. They should instead overhaul the leveling process part of the MSQ. Make it so you can join people and sync MSQ progress with newbies. Let you share quest progression and sync cutscenes. Maybe make 'some' of the solo duties be co-op accessible.
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  4. #34
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    Aileen Pureheart
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    Sargatanas
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    I expect that he is talking about the story as the dungeon and raids teams are pretty solid. Story needs a reset as they kinda boxed themselves in a corner with DT.

    Relocate us to a shard and restart the story. Put the new starting zone there and use some story tricks to merge the new player into the WoL role.

    Legacy players remember all before and the new players have amnesia.

    A clean slate story wise would help them immensely, just as ShB showed them in the past.
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  5. #35
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    Carin Eri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperia View Post
    I expect that he is talking about the story as the dungeon and raids teams are pretty solid. Story needs a reset as they kinda boxed themselves in a corner with DT.

    Relocate us to a shard and restart the story. Put the new starting zone there and use some story tricks to merge the new player into the WoL role.

    Legacy players remember all before and the new players have amnesia.

    A clean slate story wise would help them immensely, just as ShB showed them in the past.
    Dawntrail could be used as a new player starting point really, since it actively avoided (for the most part) referencing or linking to anything that happened from 2.0 - 6.0.
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  6. #36
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    Coeurvaleign Recludet
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    I played closed beta for FFXIV 1.0 and was there for the demise of 1.0. I can only say this much: Yoshi-P has been doubted and questioned about "big" problems, changes, and improvements. When 2.0 went live and the servers cratered, this man wept for shame and gave us free game time for the mistakes "he" made. He's not perfect, but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for him to get caught slipping. My money is on the man himself and he is a proven deliverer.
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  7. #37
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    Shinku Tachi
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    Goblin
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    Quote Originally Posted by UltraPrimarch View Post
    I played closed beta for FFXIV 1.0 and was there for the demise of 1.0. I can only say this much: Yoshi-P has been doubted and questioned about "big" problems, changes, and improvements. When 2.0 went live and the servers cratered, this man wept for shame and gave us free game time for the mistakes "he" made. He's not perfect, but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for him to get caught slipping. My money is on the man himself and he is a proven deliverer.
    Same! I've been here for the long haul.

    This is more or less why I'm always optimistic about this game, no matter how negative people get or how things may seem. There is always a light at the end of the tunnel with this game.
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  8. #38
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by YumieYumiki View Post
    Did we though? I absolutely cannot tell whether the "spaghetti code" thing is real or a myth invented by players.
    Remember the Endwalker issue where people could not login even after they reached 0 in the Line of a Loginqueue reaching up to 24000? That was a leftover Code issue from 1.0 and there may be more undiscovered issues.

    Thats only one of the spaghetti code sources.
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    show, don't tell.

    netcode ???
    making world zones alive ???

    literally just browse last 20 pages of general forums if you need points or direction what to start looking into.
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    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/263120-Suggestion-Chocobo-Shoes?p=3331397&highlight=chocobo+shoes#post3331397

    Please allow us to wear Chocobo Shoes

  10. #40
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    Malia Tri'el
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    I don't think the story is going anywhere, FFXIV still has to be a Final Fantasy game, but I do think the 1-90 MSQ squish would be good. Also giving players access to more of the game earlier would be great.
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