Dalamud in 1.22b

[Mushy]

as close as it is now the earth would already be feeling the gravitational effects, BUT ITS JUST A GAME i remind myself

[Keith_Dragoon]

as close as it is now the earth would already be feeling the gravitational effects, BUT ITS JUST A GAME i remind myself

But its not a planet or a moon but a giant mechanism created by the Allagan Empire long ago.

[Impulse]

But its not a planet or a moon but a giant mechanism created by the Allagan Empire long ago.

Doesn't mean it can't have its own gravitational pull.

[Rydin]

as close as it is now the earth would already be feeling the gravitational effects, BUT ITS JUST A GAME i remind myself

But its not a planet or a moon but a giant mechanism created by the Allagan Empire long ago.

Doesn't mean it can't have its own gravitational pull.

Dalamud is obviously very small, so small, in fact, that it would have no gravitational effect on the planet by falling
Hell, even if the BIG moon fell, the only gravitational effect would be on the water (Because it is moving and therefore easier to be affected by the moons gravitational pull)
The biggest thing that would change if the "Big Moon" fell would be be that the planet would no longer orbit the barycenter. Since the planet doesn't appear to "Orbit" the moon, it is assumed that the barycenter is within the planet, meaning the planet's size is much larger than that of even the larger moon

Also, since there has been no change in the day/night cycle or the planet's rotation, then it is assumed that Dalamud is not large enough to have effected the Barycenter in any noticeable way and is therefore not large enough to cause any type of large-scale gravitational tidal anomolies

[Mushy]

Dalamud is obviously very small, so small, in fact, that it would have no gravitational effect on the planet by falling
Hell, even if the BIG moon fell, the only gravitational effect would be on the water (Because it is moving and therefore easier to be affected by the moons gravitational pull)
The biggest thing that would change if the "Big Moon" fell would be be that the planet would no longer orbit the barycenter. Since the planet doesn't appear to "Orbit" the moon, it is assumed that the barycenter is within the planet, meaning the planet's size is much larger than that of even the larger moon

Also, since there has been no change in the day/night cycle or the planet's rotation, then it is assumed that Dalamud is not large enough to have effected the Barycenter in any noticeable way and is therefore not large enough to cause any type of large-scale gravitational tidal anomolies

again i post http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Dalamud

This change is said to be affecting sea currents, crops, and even the behaviour of monsters and their size.

IT EFFECTED THE MONSTER SIZE. in fact around that same time every monster doubled in size, explain that with your science!

(or was it just an excuse to why they scaled all the monsters models to huge)

[Rydin]

again i post http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Dalamud

This change is said to be affecting sea currents, crops, and even the behaviour of monsters and their size.

IT EFFECTED THE MONSTER SIZE. in fact around that same time every monster doubled in size, explain that with your science!

(or was it just an excuse to why they scaled all the monsters models to huge)

In our world, there are 4 major Interactions (forces)
Gravitation, electromagnetism, strong interaction (The force that holds atoms together) and weak interaction (radioactive particle decay)
In our universe, gravitation is the weakest of the 4 forces...

In Eorzea, all of these are present, along with a possible 5th interaction... Aetherial Energy

So without testing (which would be impossible, mind you, being that we are referring to a 3D virtual construct) it is impossible to say these changes would have anything to do with gravitation.

In fact, there is no possible way any gravitational anomaly would result in any solid mass becoming larger in size

It is very likely that the Allagan tech that was used to send a man made structure into the sky, to possibly be used as a weapon would highly effected by (or completely made possible by) Aetherial forces

It is also likely that these terrestrial changes (sea currents, crops, and even the behaviour of monsters and their size) are a result of Aetherial interaction or at the very least, one of the three major interactions that is not gravitation.

In short... its not the gravity, it's the Aether

But at the end of the day, that is all pointless...
The real point is that the ancient man made moon is falling and that means big changes for Eorzea

also looking at past notes, where can I find this monster:

I want to say he was a familiar for the Archon in one of the company quests... also they are minions summoned by the boss inside the Kobold stronghold

[ChickNorris]

Dalamud is obviously very small, so small, in fact, that it would have no gravitational effect on the planet by falling
Hell, even if the BIG moon fell, the only gravitational effect would be on the water (Because it is moving and therefore easier to be affected by the moons gravitational pull)
The biggest thing that would change if the "Big Moon" fell would be be that the planet would no longer orbit the barycenter. Since the planet doesn't appear to "Orbit" the moon, it is assumed that the barycenter is within the planet, meaning the planet's size is much larger than that of even the larger moon

Also, since there has been no change in the day/night cycle or the planet's rotation, then it is assumed that Dalamud is not large enough to have effected the Barycenter in any noticeable way and is therefore not large enough to cause any type of large-scale gravitational tidal anomolies

Actually if any planet were to lose a moon that was previously in orbit around it, there would be more than just tidal changes. I am not sure also how you can say that a gravitational pull does not exist but then mention how it will affect the tides. The gravitational pull is what creates the tides. Water is on the planet...therefore, moons do affect planets.

Wait! There is more! If we lose our moon by it not existing or falling out of orbit, the Earth's rotation would be affected and speed up. It is the dynamic of distance, pull, momentum that causes us to rotate at the speed we do. We would end up with only the Sun's pull which would cause our day to be 1/2 to 2/3 shorter. The faster rotation would mean great changes for everyone...think of the surface winds, the 8-12 hour days, so many other things affected by this. In the game it translates to what was mentioned...the sea, the crops, the monsters, etc.l

Your use of barycentre is wrong. A barycentre is the center of mass, not the center of a planet. A center of mass is established like the moon(s) rotation and the planet in balance with each other. Our Earth does not sit and spin. It rotates and orbits along a fixed line that is in balance with the bodies around it, that are also doing the same thing. That spot, that center which the earth and its bodies orbit in balance is your barycentre...your center of gravity/center of mass.

[ChiefCurrahee]

Actually if any planet were to lose a moon that was previously in orbit around it, there would be more than just tidal changes. I am not sure also how you can say that a gravitational pull does not exist but then mention how it will affect the tides. The gravitational pull is what creates the tides. Water is on the planet...therefore, moons do affect planets.

Wait! There is more! If we lose our moon by it not existing or falling out of orbit, the Earth's rotation would be affected and speed up. It is the dynamic of distance, pull, momentum that causes us to rotate at the speed we do. We would end up with only the Sun's pull which would cause our day to be 1/2 to 2/3 shorter. The faster rotation would mean great changes for everyone...think of the surface winds, the 8-12 hour days, so many other things affected by this. In the game it translates to what was mentioned...the sea, the crops, the monsters, etc.l

Your use of barycentre is wrong. A barycentre is the center of mass, not the center of a planet. A center of mass is established like the moon(s) rotation and the planet in balance with each other. Our Earth does not sit and spin. It rotates and orbits along a fixed line that is in balance with the bodies around it, that are also doing the same thing. That spot, that center which the earth and its bodies orbit in balance is your barycentre...your center of gravity/center of mass.

+ =

[Rydin]

Actually if any planet were to lose a moon that was previously in orbit around it, there would be more than just tidal changes. I am not sure also how you can say that a gravitational pull does not exist but then mention how it will affect the tides. The gravitational pull is what creates the tides. Water is on the planet...therefore, moons do affect planets.

Dalamud is obviously very small, so small, in fact, that it would have no gravitational effect on the planet by falling
Hell, even if the BIG moon fell, the only gravitational effect would be on the water

Yes... the BIG moon would have an affect, the small artificial moon would likely not have any effect

Wait! There is more! If we lose our moon by it not existing or falling out of orbit, the Earth's rotation would be affected and speed up. It is the dynamic of distance, pull, momentum that causes us to rotate at the speed we do. We would end up with only the Sun's pull which would cause our day to be 1/2 to 2/3 shorter. The faster rotation would mean great changes for everyone...think of the surface winds, the 8-12 hour days, so many other things affected by this. In the game it translates to what was mentioned...the sea, the crops, the monsters, etc.l

Your use of barycentre is wrong. A barycentre is the center of mass, not the center of a planet. A center of mass is established like the moon(s) rotation and the planet in balance with each other. Our Earth does not sit and spin. It rotates and orbits along a fixed line that is in balance with the bodies around it, that are also doing the same thing. That spot, that center which the earth and its bodies orbit in balance is your barycentre...your center of gravity/center of mass.

My use of barycenter was perfect. If the larger moon fell, It's pull on the planet, and the planet's pull on it would be removed, and the "planet" would no longer orbit the barycenter.By saying that

the planet would no longer orbit the barycenter

I can't possibly be saying that the barycenter is the center of the planet, Because I said the planet would no longer orbit it. You can't orbit yourself, therefore, nothing about what I said implied that the barycenter was the center of the planet's mass
Now what you inferred from my post... well... that's on you

So now that we have come to the conclusion that I am not wrong, only your interpretation of what I said is wrong.
I further maintain that if Dalamud is so small that

there has been no change in the day/night cycle or the planet's rotation

(Awww, look, I DID mention that removing a moon would cause changes in the earths rotation. I'm just spot on today. catch up Chick, come on), then it's size must also be so small that it wouldn't cause any gravitational anomolies

[Alzelia]

Dalamud is obviously very small, so small, in fact, that it would have no gravitational effect on the planet by falling
Hell, even if the BIG moon fell, the only gravitational effect would be on the water (Because it is moving and therefore easier to be affected by the moons gravitational pull)
The biggest thing that would change if the "Big Moon" fell would be be that the planet would no longer orbit the barycenter. Since the planet doesn't appear to "Orbit" the moon, it is assumed that the barycenter is within the planet, meaning the planet's size is much larger than that of even the larger moon

Also, since there has been no change in the day/night cycle or the planet's rotation, then it is assumed that Dalamud is not large enough to have effected the Barycenter in any noticeable way and is therefore not large enough to cause any type of large-scale gravitational tidal anomolies

There are so many scientific inaccuracies in this one post it makes me lol! You need to read up on General Relativity.

Actually if any planet were to lose a moon that was previously in orbit around it, there would be more than just tidal changes. I am not sure also how you can say that a gravitational pull does not exist but then mention how it will affect the tides. The gravitational pull is what creates the tides. Water is on the planet...therefore, moons do affect planets.

Wait! There is more! If we lose our moon by it not existing or falling out of orbit, the Earth's rotation would be affected and speed up. It is the dynamic of distance, pull, momentum that causes us to rotate at the speed we do. We would end up with only the Sun's pull which would cause our day to be 1/2 to 2/3 shorter. The faster rotation would mean great changes for everyone...think of the surface winds, the 8-12 hour days, so many other things affected by this. In the game it translates to what was mentioned...the sea, the crops, the monsters, etc.l

Your use of barycentre is wrong. A barycentre is the center of mass, not the center of a planet. A center of mass is established like the moon(s) rotation and the planet in balance with each other. Our Earth does not sit and spin. It rotates and orbits along a fixed line that is in balance with the bodies around it, that are also doing the same thing. That spot, that center which the earth and its bodies orbit in balance is your barycentre...your center of gravity/center of mass.

This one is slightly better, but the length of the day wouldn't change if the moon disappeared, the moon is very gradually slowing down the spin of the earth. If the moon disappeared, the deceleration would stop, and our days would remain at 24 hour days.

It's just a game anyways! And it's a fantasy game, science doesn't matter.