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    Dalamud in 1.22b

    I'm fairly new to this game and I"m just now seeing my first round of updates.
    Do they usually make changes to Dalamud in the "a / b" updates or only when the number changes?
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    I cant remember exactly, but I think only main updates

    if there are additional quests that mention it perhaps they will but a/b dont usually add major quests. and dalamud from 1.21 to 1.22 was a huge leap. if they kept up at this rate it would hit months before 2.0 came out
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    They made a slight adjustment in the "a" patch for 1.21, so I'd think it's completely possible.
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    as close as it is now the earth would already be feeling the gravitational effects, BUT ITS JUST A GAME i remind myself
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mushy View Post
    as close as it is now the earth would already be feeling the gravitational effects, BUT ITS JUST A GAME i remind myself
    But its not a planet or a moon but a giant mechanism created by the Allagan Empire long ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith_Dragoon View Post
    But its not a planet or a moon but a giant mechanism created by the Allagan Empire long ago.
    Doesn't mean it can't have its own gravitational pull.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Impulse View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mushy View Post
    as close as it is now the earth would already be feeling the gravitational effects, BUT ITS JUST A GAME i remind myself
    But its not a planet or a moon but a giant mechanism created by the Allagan Empire long ago.
    Doesn't mean it can't have its own gravitational pull.
    Dalamud is obviously very small, so small, in fact, that it would have no gravitational effect on the planet by falling
    Hell, even if the BIG moon fell, the only gravitational effect would be on the water (Because it is moving and therefore easier to be affected by the moons gravitational pull)
    The biggest thing that would change if the "Big Moon" fell would be be that the planet would no longer orbit the barycenter. Since the planet doesn't appear to "Orbit" the moon, it is assumed that the barycenter is within the planet, meaning the planet's size is much larger than that of even the larger moon

    Also, since there has been no change in the day/night cycle or the planet's rotation, then it is assumed that Dalamud is not large enough to have effected the Barycenter in any noticeable way and is therefore not large enough to cause any type of large-scale gravitational tidal anomolies
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    Dalamud is obviously very small, so small, in fact, that it would have no gravitational effect on the planet by falling
    Hell, even if the BIG moon fell, the only gravitational effect would be on the water (Because it is moving and therefore easier to be affected by the moons gravitational pull)
    The biggest thing that would change if the "Big Moon" fell would be be that the planet would no longer orbit the barycenter. Since the planet doesn't appear to "Orbit" the moon, it is assumed that the barycenter is within the planet, meaning the planet's size is much larger than that of even the larger moon

    Also, since there has been no change in the day/night cycle or the planet's rotation, then it is assumed that Dalamud is not large enough to have effected the Barycenter in any noticeable way and is therefore not large enough to cause any type of large-scale gravitational tidal anomolies
    again i post http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Dalamud

    This change is said to be affecting sea currents, crops, and even the behaviour of monsters and their size.

    IT EFFECTED THE MONSTER SIZE. in fact around that same time every monster doubled in size, explain that with your science!

    (or was it just an excuse to why they scaled all the monsters models to huge)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    Dalamud is obviously very small, so small, in fact, that it would have no gravitational effect on the planet by falling
    Hell, even if the BIG moon fell, the only gravitational effect would be on the water (Because it is moving and therefore easier to be affected by the moons gravitational pull)
    The biggest thing that would change if the "Big Moon" fell would be be that the planet would no longer orbit the barycenter. Since the planet doesn't appear to "Orbit" the moon, it is assumed that the barycenter is within the planet, meaning the planet's size is much larger than that of even the larger moon

    Also, since there has been no change in the day/night cycle or the planet's rotation, then it is assumed that Dalamud is not large enough to have effected the Barycenter in any noticeable way and is therefore not large enough to cause any type of large-scale gravitational tidal anomolies
    Actually if any planet were to lose a moon that was previously in orbit around it, there would be more than just tidal changes. I am not sure also how you can say that a gravitational pull does not exist but then mention how it will affect the tides. The gravitational pull is what creates the tides. Water is on the planet...therefore, moons do affect planets.

    Wait! There is more! If we lose our moon by it not existing or falling out of orbit, the Earth's rotation would be affected and speed up. It is the dynamic of distance, pull, momentum that causes us to rotate at the speed we do. We would end up with only the Sun's pull which would cause our day to be 1/2 to 2/3 shorter. The faster rotation would mean great changes for everyone...think of the surface winds, the 8-12 hour days, so many other things affected by this. In the game it translates to what was mentioned...the sea, the crops, the monsters, etc.l

    Your use of barycentre is wrong. A barycentre is the center of mass, not the center of a planet. A center of mass is established like the moon(s) rotation and the planet in balance with each other. Our Earth does not sit and spin. It rotates and orbits along a fixed line that is in balance with the bodies around it, that are also doing the same thing. That spot, that center which the earth and its bodies orbit in balance is your barycentre...your center of gravity/center of mass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    Dalamud is obviously very small, so small, in fact, that it would have no gravitational effect on the planet by falling
    Hell, even if the BIG moon fell, the only gravitational effect would be on the water (Because it is moving and therefore easier to be affected by the moons gravitational pull)
    The biggest thing that would change if the "Big Moon" fell would be be that the planet would no longer orbit the barycenter. Since the planet doesn't appear to "Orbit" the moon, it is assumed that the barycenter is within the planet, meaning the planet's size is much larger than that of even the larger moon

    Also, since there has been no change in the day/night cycle or the planet's rotation, then it is assumed that Dalamud is not large enough to have effected the Barycenter in any noticeable way and is therefore not large enough to cause any type of large-scale gravitational tidal anomolies
    There are so many scientific inaccuracies in this one post it makes me lol! You need to read up on General Relativity.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChickNorris View Post
    Actually if any planet were to lose a moon that was previously in orbit around it, there would be more than just tidal changes. I am not sure also how you can say that a gravitational pull does not exist but then mention how it will affect the tides. The gravitational pull is what creates the tides. Water is on the planet...therefore, moons do affect planets.

    Wait! There is more! If we lose our moon by it not existing or falling out of orbit, the Earth's rotation would be affected and speed up. It is the dynamic of distance, pull, momentum that causes us to rotate at the speed we do. We would end up with only the Sun's pull which would cause our day to be 1/2 to 2/3 shorter. The faster rotation would mean great changes for everyone...think of the surface winds, the 8-12 hour days, so many other things affected by this. In the game it translates to what was mentioned...the sea, the crops, the monsters, etc.l

    Your use of barycentre is wrong. A barycentre is the center of mass, not the center of a planet. A center of mass is established like the moon(s) rotation and the planet in balance with each other. Our Earth does not sit and spin. It rotates and orbits along a fixed line that is in balance with the bodies around it, that are also doing the same thing. That spot, that center which the earth and its bodies orbit in balance is your barycentre...your center of gravity/center of mass.
    This one is slightly better, but the length of the day wouldn't change if the moon disappeared, the moon is very gradually slowing down the spin of the earth. If the moon disappeared, the deceleration would stop, and our days would remain at 24 hour days.

    It's just a game anyways! And it's a fantasy game, science doesn't matter.
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