The current duty experience in XIV

[Valence]

I feel like it's become more and more the norm rather than the exception even in dungeons today: people get in, nobody says hello even if you say it, nobody says thanks or bye. It's literally fast food MMO, macdonaldized enough to the extreme because there is no surprise, everything must go fast so everybody can get out as fast as possible. Everything streamlined to avoid bumps on the road.

I was expecting matched parties in deep dungeons to prove different, especially in the more challenging parts. But no, it's very similar, people are rude, consider each other like random numbers or AIs. The only time they'll wake up and start speaking is if there is something going awry, and that's not a guarantee either.

What has happened to this community?

[Miradelle]

Hello.

Thanks!

Bye!

[AmiableApkallu]

What has happened to this community?

The streamlining of jobs and duties has naturally led to the streamlining of interactions. #ChangeMyMind

[0blivion]

what's happened is that the average FFXIV player got so coddled by EW that they can't do basic mechanics on floor 70+ and then cry when someone pulls an amount of mobs they're comfortable dodging (lol)

[Vrankyl]

This is essentially how interactions are with random players in any MMO these days. Talking is minimal mostly because people do their talking with their friend groups in their FCs, Linkshells, Guilds, and Discords. It also doesn't help that most games have made it easy for people to be reported for things, even just offering help if you end up wording it wrong which is likely since you are typing while doing things.

[CCheshire]

This is essentially how interactions are with random players in any MMO these days. Talking is minimal mostly because people do their talking with their friend groups in their FCs, Linkshells, Guilds, and Discords. It also doesn't help that most games have made it easy for people to be reported for things, even just offering help if you end up wording it wrong which is likely since you are typing while doing things.

I started at ARR, and no one has ever reported me? Sounds like a skill issue :v

Also, it's not the report that causes ppl to get sent to jail but when the GM reviews the said report and decides yes, you did break TOS and then the punishment hits.

[TaleraRistain]

I've played since 2.2 and dungeons were never that chatty. We were there to do the instance. There may have been some communication about mechanics if needed or telling people to stay close at the beginning for Protect, etc. But there's not really a lot of time for chat when we're focused on fighting things.

[Vrankyl]

I started at ARR, and no one has ever reported me? Sounds like a skill issue :v

Also, it's not the report that causes ppl to get sent to jail but when the GM reviews the said report and decides yes, you did break TOS and then the punishment hits.

I never once said I have been reported. Also played since ARR and have never been reported. Then again I always keep to myself so that probably slews it over. I was just pointing out what the majority of people indicate as to the reason why they don't talk with random people in most games. It's the same thing that is said over in WoW as well.

[Absurdity]

I started at ARR, and no one has ever reported me? Sounds like a skill issue :v

Also, it's not the report that causes ppl to get sent to jail but when the GM reviews the said report and decides yes, you did break TOS and then the punishment hits.

If you started in ARR you should also know that the TOS changed significantly around 2018.

Before that point it was for example actually pretty common to tell people exactly why they're getting kicked from a PF party.
Fast forward to the new TOS and you just kick people in complete silence or even worse the entire party simply disbands. Everyone probably knows why, but better not risk that a GM decides it falls under "offensive expression".

Even if you word it as nicely as possible, you are still technically telling someone how they should play the game.

The streamlining of jobs and duties has naturally led to the streamlining of interactions. #ChangeMyMind

It's unfortunately also a side effect of quality of life features that every modern MMO has.

Having data center-wide duty and party finder is really convenient, but it also means you care less about making connections because you're most likely never going to see that player again.
Being able to queue from anywhere means you no longer spend any time talking to your party while you wait for everyone to get to the dungeon. And as you said, the simplicity of the duties means you don't spend any time talking inside the instance either.

[Fawkes]

Hello.

Thanks!

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