Post Your Complete Garuda Weapon Set!

[Raikki]

wait, BLM burning isn't legit? that's how I do ifrit and moogle, because fuck if I'm going to struggle when I need to beat it like 90 times.

BLM burning Ifrit and Moogle doesn't skip all the fight mechanics. BLM burning will be "legit" once Garuda is patched.

[Majidah]

BLM burning Ifrit and Moogle doesn't skip all the fight mechanics. BLM burning will be "legit" once Garuda is patched.

ah no idea about that, I haven't tried garuda hard yet.
but basically they are killing garuda before it uses its 2HRs right?

seems a screw up on SE's design

[viion]

We both know that's not true. Countless LS's can't beat the fight legit and are farming it via BLM burn.

I dont know its true, I have seen people kill it legit, there were plenty of Garuda Kills before the BLM spree happened, plenty of videos as well. You have no proof they cant do it legit, just like i have no proof they can, thus its moot.

BLM burning Ifrit and Moogle doesn't skip all the fight mechanics. BLM burning will be "legit" once Garuda is patched.

I skip avoiding plumes legitimately by standing in a spot i know they never spawn, skipping that game design XD

[Crimzon]

Had our first LS member get to 7/7 weapons last night. Most people have (or at least have enough headdresses) to get to 3-4 weapons now as well. We have never even attempted this fight using a BLM burn setup.

I don't understand how 90% of the community would choose to not participate in probably the most balanced and challenging fight that SE has implemented to date.

While frustrating at times to get all the mechanics of the different phases down (like any fight I suppose), the feeling that you get when you finally succeed is one of the reasons that make MMOs fun to play.

If there was a treasure chest in the cave where you enter the Garuda fight and you could either fight Garuda to try and earn the weapons or simply click the chest, would all these shells just be skipping the fight altogether? Do gamers not enjoy the challenge of overcoming anything anymore or is it really just about a virtual piece of gear?

[MeowyWowie]

Eh, I got a few minutes before leaving for work, so let me dissect this real quick.

And that is exactly it, "95% dont want to do it the legit way", why you think that is? You're missing something very big here =)

This is obvious. It's because they couldn't win using a legit strategy. Anyone that's been doing Garuda since it was released could tell you this. Countless shells in the zone, all of them exiting the battle dead time and time again. Once an easier strategy was shown to them they all flocked to it and suddenly shells are beating her left and right.

It just so happens that this new strategy exploits broken game mechanics by bypassing more than half of what the real fight contains. The sad part is most don't care whether they're cheating or not and will try to rationalize their opinion on the matter even though it's been confirmed by the head hancho himself that it is in fact an exploit.

Plus what you see exploitable is not what I see exploitable, this is no different than zerging Kirin in XI.

I'll agree with you here. This really is no different than a Kirin, KV, Vrtra, DL, Cirrate Christelle or any <insert random FFXI NM encounter> Kraken Club burn. However, using that strategy on those mobs was considered legit even though it was still cheesy and required no real skill, only deep pockets (Yes, I too had a KC DRK so don't try to argue KC burns were difficult).

The Garuda manaburn is more comparable to an Aboslute Virtue KC burn, in more ways than 1 but for the sake of argument I'll just list the obvious one. It was considered an exploit by the dev team and soon patched to where it could no longer be used. Sound familiar?

It is a Strategy, weather you like to see it like that or not, if a country wants to invade another do they do it in a fair legit way? No, they time everything right, exploit anything they can, and nothing is pretty pictures.

Please tell me I'm imagining things and that you didn't really compare a video game to war. Nothing is fair in war, you fight to win not play by the rules. This comment is so shortsighted I seriously /facepalmed when I read it.

Sure, it is an exploit, that does not mean it is not a strategy, even a "legit way" you will exploit something, will you exploit wind element and put wind resistance on, exploit its positioning and hide behind it, exploit plume aoe by standing far away, yada yada, everything to anti something is exploiting its weakness end of day.

That's true, but in game terms an exploit usually refers to taking advantage of a broken game mechanic (which is not OK). This is just another example of the rationalization I mentioned earlier.

As far harder fights, either you're listening to some loud people who dont speak for the majority or you're confusing this "tough fight" with something we asked for, the legit way is not really tough, its a matter of just surviving and standing in the right place in at the right time. Just like Ifrit and Chimera with "safe spots".

I'm confused by the first part of this paragraph. Are you saying that only the vocal minority has been asking for a harder game? Really don't know what you're getting at here.

If you'd actually won using a legit strategy you would know there's more to it than just standing in the right spot at the right time, although it is a very large aspect of the fight itself. You can say you have, but until i see a video of DoW doing it, like they have with every other encounter in this game, I wouldn't believe you anyways. Honestly, I was a bit surprised Mog never posted a strategy on this fight but it makes sense now I guess. Just the fact that you compared this fight to Chimera shows that you really know nothing about it.

In conclusion, I don't mean to attack you or your LS with this post. I just find it very disappointing to see people defending exploits like these. I would respect you and others like you more if you kept trying a legitimate strategy and kept failing and perhaps asking for help rather than abusing exploits then coming here on the forums and defending them after they've already been confirmed to be "not working as intended."

It's really quite sad and speaks volumes for the players in this game. Essentially "bots and RMT are the devil, but cheating is not cheating if I'm dong it."

[viion]

Eh, I got a few minutes before leaving for work, so let me dissect this real quick.

This is obvious. It's because they couldn't win using a legit strategy. Anyone that's been doing Garuda since it was released could tell you this. Countless shells in the zone, all of them exiting the battle dead time and time again. Once an easier strategy was shown to them they all flocked to it and suddenly shells are beating her left and right.

My LS can kill it normally, just choose not to, as there is no point when this is far better, plenty of other LS's do it normally and this way, depends how they feel about it.

Please tell me I'm imagining things and that you didn't really compare a video game to war. Nothing is fair in war, you fight to win not play by the rules. This comment is so shortsighted I seriously /facepalmed when I read it.

Because maybe you're closed minded. I play games to win, i fight to win, i dont care about anything else, i play for me. So yes im comparing it to war, compare it to anything, Football, you exploit weaknesses in the team, if they shit at defense, you exploit it. etc.

cant be bothered with rest of your nonsense, just going to end up in a cycle, and i just see it as you being super jelly lol. Because not only did you complete misunderstand me with your own idiotic reasoning, you started putting words in my mouth and have a blind eye response to everything.

[Raikki]

My LS can kill it normally, just choose not to, as there is no point when this is far better, plenty of other LS's do it normally and this way, depends how they feel about it.

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i just see it as you being super jelly lol.

oh yes, "super jelly"

[viion]

oh yes, "super jelly"

What am I looking at?

Think you missed the point of jelly, heck do you know what site i run? i know everything you done lol.

Ah i just cant take this to much, i feel like I need to write an instruction manual to my posts for ya :/ Go and fight with the internet elsewhere, or learn a calender or something lol.

[Ragz]

What am I looking at?

Think you missed the point of jelly, heck do you know what site i run? i know everything you done lol.

Ah i just cant take this to much, i feel like I need to write an instruction manual to my posts for ya :/ Go and fight with the internet elsewhere, or learn a calender or something lol.

Do you know what site I run?

Not a FFXIV fan site that's for sure~ teehee~

[viion]

Do you know what site I run?

Not a FFXIV fan site that's for sure~ teehee~

Curiosity is calling, damnit you!