Post Your Complete Garuda Weapon Set!

[viion]

You're sad to see an exploit being fixed?

I remember a time not too long ago when people here were asking for more difficult and dynamic content. Garuda gave us that, yet 95% of the playerbase chooses to abuse an exploit rendering what is actually a very fun and tactical fight into a plain old boring tank and spank encounter. That makes me sad.

And that is exactly it, "95% dont want to do it the legit way", why you think that is? You're missing something very big here =)

Plus what you see exploitable is not what I see exploitable, this is no different than zerging Kirin in XI.

It is a Strategy, weather you like to see it like that or not, if a country wants to invade another do they do it in a fair legit way? No, they time everything right, exploit anything they can, and nothing is pretty pictures.

Sure, it is an exploit, that does not mean it is not a strategy, even a "legit way" you will exploit something, will you exploit wind element and put wind resistance on, exploit its positioning and hide behind it, exploit plume aoe by standing far away, yada yada, everything to anti something is exploiting its weakness end of day.

As far harder fights, either you're listening to some loud people who dont speak for the majority or you're confusing this "tough fight" with something we asked for, the legit way is not really tough, its a matter of just surviving and standing in the right place in at the right time. Just like Ifrit and Chimera with "safe spots".

Yeah, nothing changes like how The Dreamers quests are required to complete my tracker even though they are not availble. They stare me in the eye everytime I update my pad...and it NEVER CHANGES..

Click the that says Add Quest to Ignore List, :/.

[Raikki]

And that is exactly it, "95% dont want to do it the legit way", why you think that is? You're missing something very big here =).

Then 95% of the playerbase will always choose loot over challenge because they're lazy. It hadn't even been a week and people were complaining because they wanted free loot instead of something they had to work at. If most of the community can't handle a week or more of learning to beat new content then what they really need is separate baby content just for them to keep them occupied. Don't shit up what's supposed to be the hardest encounter in the game because of some people's overinflated sense of loot entitlement. Everyone should realize from what happened with Ifrit and Moogle that this will be made easier eventually. If you really need to beat new content right away, you should stop complaining about challenge and embrace it.

[viion]

Then 95% of the playerbase will always choose loot over challenge because they're lazy. It hadn't even been a week and people were complaining because they wanted free loot instead of something they had to work at. If most of the community can't handle a week or more of learning to beat new content then what they really need is separate baby content just for them to keep them occupied. Don't shit up what's supposed to be the hardest encounter in the game because of some people's overinflated sense of loot entitlement. Everyone should realize from what happened with Ifrit and Moogle that this will be made easier eventually. If you really need to beat new content right away, you should stop complaining about challenge and embrace it.

I get your point and I kind of agree with you, but "Loot" is not the goal.

Think about it, you can die easily doing it and you have to wait 15 minutes even on a loss, and the strategy only shaves off a few minutes. The amount of losses you can get just ups the amount of loss chances at weapon.

If you did it legit, you could pretty much 100% guarantee a win, and you only need to do it 140 times to be 7/7, which is going to happen very fast weather you use this exploit or not. The legit videos are all under 10 minutes kill time.

It is just, an easy strategy once you meet the strict requirements. Its a "safe spot" strategy, like Ifrit.

A lot of people know how to do it legit, my entire LS did it legit before this came about, this is just more preferred because the legit way isnt harder, it isnt more challenging, it isnt even more fun and it is kind of a drag+cluster fuck XD so they prefer to do it like this.

It is kind of more fun for some, I find it more fun this way! XD

[Raikki]

The legit way isnt harder, it isnt more challenging, it isnt even more fun and it is kind of a drag+cluster fuck XD so they prefer to do it like this.

We both know that's not true. Countless LS's can't beat the fight legit and are farming it via BLM burn.

[Majidah]

We both know that's not true. Countless LS's can't beat the fight legit and are farming it via BLM burn.

wait, BLM burning isn't legit? that's how I do ifrit and moogle, because fuck if I'm going to struggle when I need to beat it like 90 times.

[Raikki]

wait, BLM burning isn't legit? that's how I do ifrit and moogle, because fuck if I'm going to struggle when I need to beat it like 90 times.

BLM burning Ifrit and Moogle doesn't skip all the fight mechanics. BLM burning will be "legit" once Garuda is patched.

[Majidah]

BLM burning Ifrit and Moogle doesn't skip all the fight mechanics. BLM burning will be "legit" once Garuda is patched.

ah no idea about that, I haven't tried garuda hard yet.
but basically they are killing garuda before it uses its 2HRs right?

seems a screw up on SE's design

[viion]

We both know that's not true. Countless LS's can't beat the fight legit and are farming it via BLM burn.

I dont know its true, I have seen people kill it legit, there were plenty of Garuda Kills before the BLM spree happened, plenty of videos as well. You have no proof they cant do it legit, just like i have no proof they can, thus its moot.

BLM burning Ifrit and Moogle doesn't skip all the fight mechanics. BLM burning will be "legit" once Garuda is patched.

I skip avoiding plumes legitimately by standing in a spot i know they never spawn, skipping that game design XD

[MeowyWowie]

Eh, I got a few minutes before leaving for work, so let me dissect this real quick.

And that is exactly it, "95% dont want to do it the legit way", why you think that is? You're missing something very big here =)

This is obvious. It's because they couldn't win using a legit strategy. Anyone that's been doing Garuda since it was released could tell you this. Countless shells in the zone, all of them exiting the battle dead time and time again. Once an easier strategy was shown to them they all flocked to it and suddenly shells are beating her left and right.

It just so happens that this new strategy exploits broken game mechanics by bypassing more than half of what the real fight contains. The sad part is most don't care whether they're cheating or not and will try to rationalize their opinion on the matter even though it's been confirmed by the head hancho himself that it is in fact an exploit.

Plus what you see exploitable is not what I see exploitable, this is no different than zerging Kirin in XI.

I'll agree with you here. This really is no different than a Kirin, KV, Vrtra, DL, Cirrate Christelle or any <insert random FFXI NM encounter> Kraken Club burn. However, using that strategy on those mobs was considered legit even though it was still cheesy and required no real skill, only deep pockets (Yes, I too had a KC DRK so don't try to argue KC burns were difficult).

The Garuda manaburn is more comparable to an Aboslute Virtue KC burn, in more ways than 1 but for the sake of argument I'll just list the obvious one. It was considered an exploit by the dev team and soon patched to where it could no longer be used. Sound familiar?

It is a Strategy, weather you like to see it like that or not, if a country wants to invade another do they do it in a fair legit way? No, they time everything right, exploit anything they can, and nothing is pretty pictures.

Please tell me I'm imagining things and that you didn't really compare a video game to war. Nothing is fair in war, you fight to win not play by the rules. This comment is so shortsighted I seriously /facepalmed when I read it.

Sure, it is an exploit, that does not mean it is not a strategy, even a "legit way" you will exploit something, will you exploit wind element and put wind resistance on, exploit its positioning and hide behind it, exploit plume aoe by standing far away, yada yada, everything to anti something is exploiting its weakness end of day.

That's true, but in game terms an exploit usually refers to taking advantage of a broken game mechanic (which is not OK). This is just another example of the rationalization I mentioned earlier.

As far harder fights, either you're listening to some loud people who dont speak for the majority or you're confusing this "tough fight" with something we asked for, the legit way is not really tough, its a matter of just surviving and standing in the right place in at the right time. Just like Ifrit and Chimera with "safe spots".

I'm confused by the first part of this paragraph. Are you saying that only the vocal minority has been asking for a harder game? Really don't know what you're getting at here.

If you'd actually won using a legit strategy you would know there's more to it than just standing in the right spot at the right time, although it is a very large aspect of the fight itself. You can say you have, but until i see a video of DoW doing it, like they have with every other encounter in this game, I wouldn't believe you anyways. Honestly, I was a bit surprised Mog never posted a strategy on this fight but it makes sense now I guess. Just the fact that you compared this fight to Chimera shows that you really know nothing about it.

In conclusion, I don't mean to attack you or your LS with this post. I just find it very disappointing to see people defending exploits like these. I would respect you and others like you more if you kept trying a legitimate strategy and kept failing and perhaps asking for help rather than abusing exploits then coming here on the forums and defending them after they've already been confirmed to be "not working as intended."

It's really quite sad and speaks volumes for the players in this game. Essentially "bots and RMT are the devil, but cheating is not cheating if I'm dong it."

[viion]

Eh, I got a few minutes before leaving for work, so let me dissect this real quick.

This is obvious. It's because they couldn't win using a legit strategy. Anyone that's been doing Garuda since it was released could tell you this. Countless shells in the zone, all of them exiting the battle dead time and time again. Once an easier strategy was shown to them they all flocked to it and suddenly shells are beating her left and right.

My LS can kill it normally, just choose not to, as there is no point when this is far better, plenty of other LS's do it normally and this way, depends how they feel about it.

Please tell me I'm imagining things and that you didn't really compare a video game to war. Nothing is fair in war, you fight to win not play by the rules. This comment is so shortsighted I seriously /facepalmed when I read it.

Because maybe you're closed minded. I play games to win, i fight to win, i dont care about anything else, i play for me. So yes im comparing it to war, compare it to anything, Football, you exploit weaknesses in the team, if they shit at defense, you exploit it. etc.

cant be bothered with rest of your nonsense, just going to end up in a cycle, and i just see it as you being super jelly lol. Because not only did you complete misunderstand me with your own idiotic reasoning, you started putting words in my mouth and have a blind eye response to everything.