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  1. #61
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    VeyaAkemi's Avatar
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    Veya Akemi
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    Marilith
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Xurtan View Post
    Just.. ignore the no-healer runs people have done. :v)
    People have done no-tank runs as well, it genuinely doesn't mean anything other than people know how to abuse/exploit the game's systems.
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  2. #62
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    Xurtan's Avatar
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    Mikh'ir Bajhiri
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    Midgardsormr
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by VeyaAkemi View Post
    People have done no-tank runs as well, it genuinely doesn't mean anything other than people know how to abuse/exploit the game's systems.
    Oh don't get me wrong, I think that is a problem as well. The classes as they are right now are incredibly awkwardly balanced, and the content is itself awkwardly balanced within that paradigm. Tanks and healers are particularly egregious and could probably stand to be reworked ground up, but they're far from the only ones. Poor phys ranged and ninja. -_-
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    #healerstrike

  3. #63
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    Valence's Avatar
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Twintania
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by BlisteringFrost View Post
    I understand reading intended sarcasm might be difficult, so, to clarify, it was intended to be sarcastic.

    But also, we're level 100 now. Act like it.
    Just to clarify because you're sending me very mixed signals now, were you unironically advocating for increasing the baseline difficulty or not?
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    Secretly had a crush on Mao

  4. #64
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    Hyperia's Avatar
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    Aileen Pureheart
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Okay so why does playing a tank and DPS not make me want to rip my hair out in casual content
    This is because there are no healer developers but there are Tank and DPS devs. The caster DPS devs are the ones that work on healers so that is why we see more dps finding its way into healing instead of healing. I love healing, its wonderful and I have healed in many games. This is one of the few games that healing is boring unless you have a bunch of new players. The reason why healing is tuned the way it is to be optimized for Ult and Savage is that is because the devs make that content first and then attempt to reduce the difficulty to make a normal mode.

    Until we get to a point besides one or two mechanics checks that require healers, healing is going to remain boring and unfulling. I doubt they will make healing more fufulling because they really dont want to have 3 different types of wipe scenereos in raids so they reduced it to 1.5 because tanks are only needed to hold agro in many cases, looking at you wall bosses.

    I'd gladly go back to the days of 2.x and 3.x when there were consequences for healers, tanks and even DPS as today, there really are none.

    P.S. If they really want to make healing more important, please for the love of all that is holy, fix WAR self healing... it defines a whole new level of broken.
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  5. #65
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    Shistar's Avatar
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    Arkaiss Crow
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    Phantom
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Minarisweet View Post
    I often find myself falling asleep during boss fights where no damage is going on until next raidwide and whm is my favorite aesthetic in the game but im not always doing high end so im wondering if anybody does anything special to make healers more fun in there

    I mostly just meme. When I play healer in anything easier than savage, I choose that role because I wanna relax in my comfort zone. I try to strike up a conversation with the rest of the party, joke around a bit, tell the tank to step on the gas (can lead to some funky pulls if you get the blessed sprout tank + ARR/HW dungeon combo) and mostly just limit myself to being the person straying from the usual path to grab all the loot on our way to the boss.


    Also, I've stumbled into multiple groups putting all the stack markers together when they happen. Very fun to see half or more of your party nuke itself, then go and fix it xD


    It does sound like your skill level has well surpassed that of your usual content a while ago and it might be time to give healer a spin in some tougher content (if you'd like to suffer, I suggest Criterions lol). Sadly, almost all of us reach that point sooner or later. As a regen healer, and one fairly strong at burst, you'll have the most fun trying to give your fellow party members a heart attack by letting them drop dangerously low before healing them again.
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  6. #66
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    Blistering Frost
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    Maduin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Just to clarify because you're sending me very mixed signals now, were you unironically advocating for increasing the baseline difficulty or not?
    Yes. I have absolutely no problem with the games baseline becoming more difficult as we level up because it should simply be expected of us to be better as we've become more experienced with it.
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  7. #67
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    Valence's Avatar
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Twintania
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by BlisteringFrost View Post
    Yes. I have absolutely no problem with the games baseline becoming more difficult as we level up because it should simply be expected of us to be better as we've become more experienced with it.
    Then I do stand by my initial reply.
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    Secretly had a crush on Mao

  8. #68
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    Avoidy's Avatar
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    Chadhadai Oronir
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 83
    While you're tapping [1] over and over again, envision the burly, competent, dashing tank marrying you and starting a life together after the duty is over.
    idk man the role is boring af
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shialan View Post
    I don't get it. Do you really have nothing better to do with your life than creating shitpost after shitpost?
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshida-san
    Let's consider another theoretical mod: one that displays your character entirely naked.

  9. #69
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    Alice_Rivers's Avatar
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    Alice Rivers
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    While you're tapping [1] over and over again, envision the burly, competent, dashing tank marrying you and starting a life together after the duty is over.
    She wasn't burly but she was competent and rather pretty and I did marry her so I guess healer endgame achieved?
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  10. #70
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    LukaRoselia's Avatar
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    Ruby Togawa
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    Zodiark
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    Ninja Lv 91
    That's the neat part. You don't.

    I'm sure this is infuriating to read for tank mains but unless we ever nerf tanks and stop them being solo machines then healers will always feel awful to play. I never even play healer on my first run of a dungeon anymore because I know if I mess up during my blind run that I'm not needed anyway and I'll spend all of the fight tabbed out if we don't have a res mage or summoner. Tanks just have far too much self healing and even party wide to a degree on far too short of a cooldown.
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