More action oriented combat{again}

[Dragon]

"TERA and GW2 will never make it in this industry because they dont have FFXIV's awesome combat system."

-FFXIV forum

Don't forget these are the same people that want just about everything else from lolTera/lolGW2/lolTOR/etc.

I hate AA with a fiery passion. I consider it two huge steps backwards in regards to building a robust combat system.

The problem was never the button mashing that people kept complaining about. The problem was the game's best DPS was achieved by spamming the basic attack for a class as fast as you possibly could. What I mean by that is button mashing was a symptom, not the actual problem itself. With the combo system we have now, a bit of tweaking would be all that is needed in order to make it a dynamic system that eclipses our current combat system in every way.

Unfortunately, the safe way for SE going forward is to stick to 'safe' conventions, and unfortunately AA is one of those. They're far, far too gunshy at this point to attempt anything truly innovative, so I'm not expecting us to ever see anything beyond the copy pasta'd combat that you find in most other MMORPGs.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

The fact of the matter is every argument made against a non-AA system has nothing at all to do with not having AA itself, it'd be like me raging against the auto-attack feature itself for being clunky when it's not auto-attack itself but the current AA system implemented that is clunky as hell.

[Rokien]

Don't forget these are the same people that want just about everything else from lolTera/lolGW2/lolTOR/etc.



Couldn't have said it better myself.

The fact of the matter is every argument made against a non-AA system has nothing at all to do with not having AA itself, it'd be like me raging against the auto-attack feature itself for being clunky when it's not auto-attack itself but the current AA system implemented that is clunky as hell.

both said it better than me, that's for sure(not hard to do lol)!

[Dragon]

both said it better than me, that's for sure(not hard to do lol)!

Well you were the catalyst, to say the least, though I screwed up slightly; by current AA system I meant the UI and controls themselves. I have not once seen an AA system done so horribly, and there are a lot out there.

[fusional]

I hate AA with a fiery passion. I consider it two huge steps backwards in regards to building a robust combat system.

The problem was never the button mashing that people kept complaining about. The problem was the game's best DPS was achieved by spamming the basic attack for a class as fast as you possibly could. What I mean by that is button mashing was a symptom, not the actual problem itself. With the combo system we have now, a bit of tweaking would be all that is needed in order to make it a dynamic system that eclipses our current combat system in every way.

Unfortunately, the safe way for SE going forward is to stick to 'safe' conventions, and unfortunately AA is one of those. They're far, far too gunshy at this point to attempt anything truly innovative, so I'm not expecting us to ever see anything beyond the copy pasta'd combat that you find in most other MMORPGs.

if AA is so "safe" and "easy" with the directional combo system, you should be able to show me parses of you doing elite damage on boss mobs, right? and the majority of other players in the community should be able to match that elite damage, since it's so easy, right? right?

a lot of people talk shit about the 'ease' of a system they aren't even good at themselves. so that's interesting.

[Rokien]

if AA is so "safe" and "easy" with the directional combo system, you should be able to show me parses of you doing elite damage on boss mobs, right? and the majority of other players in the community should be able to match that elite damage, since it's so easy, right? right?

a lot of people talk shit about the 'ease' of a system they aren't even good at themselves. so that's interesting.

I don't even know when anyone said easy >.> it's a safe system to implement. It's safe because they know it will work, it's defiantly not the best system(AA that is), but it works, people are used to it. I would like you to show me parser of mass damage on every class with the old system >.> if you are going to say that. Come on now, that's a silly argument.

[Eliseus]

if AA is so "safe" and "easy" with the directional combo system, you should be able to show me parses of you doing elite damage on boss mobs, right? and the majority of other players in the community should be able to match that elite damage, since it's so easy, right? right?

a lot of people talk shit about the 'ease' of a system they aren't even good at themselves. so that's interesting.

SS or it didn't happen. Stop assuming everyone is bad?

[Burrmanchu]

if AA is so "safe" and "easy" with the directional combo system, you should be able to show me parses of you doing elite damage on boss mobs, right? and the majority of other players in the community should be able to match that elite damage, since it's so easy, right? right?

a lot of people talk shit about the 'ease' of a system they aren't even good at themselves. so that's interesting.

This. And just out of curiosity wtf is that sig? lmfao

[Colino]

What's next Rokien? You want the stamina bar back as well?

[Ruisu]

Its funny no one gives a valid reason why.

Because there are going to be players who use controllers. FFXIV is relying on that PS3 playerbase.

Good luck moving nonstop on your D-Pad trying to be a decent player, unless you seriously think "Attack" should have it's own dedicated face button.

Go play TERA, Blade and Soul, or Guild Wars 2 if you want a more action oriented combat system. We just got a fucking overhaul of the combat system a few months back, and you want them to rework it AGAIN?

Christ.

[Payadopa]

Yoshi already stated that this time the battle system has to work because there won't be a next one. Your thread is therefor pretty unnecessary. Even SE can't remake the whole battle system at every whim of the so called majority.