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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    I hate AA with a fiery passion. I consider it two huge steps backwards in regards to building a robust combat system.

    The problem was never the button mashing that people kept complaining about. The problem was the game's best DPS was achieved by spamming the basic attack for a class as fast as you possibly could. What I mean by that is button mashing was a symptom, not the actual problem itself. With the combo system we have now, a bit of tweaking would be all that is needed in order to make it a dynamic system that eclipses our current combat system in every way.

    Unfortunately, the safe way for SE going forward is to stick to 'safe' conventions, and unfortunately AA is one of those. They're far, far too gunshy at this point to attempt anything truly innovative, so I'm not expecting us to ever see anything beyond the copy pasta'd combat that you find in most other MMORPGs.
    if AA is so "safe" and "easy" with the directional combo system, you should be able to show me parses of you doing elite damage on boss mobs, right? and the majority of other players in the community should be able to match that elite damage, since it's so easy, right? right?

    a lot of people talk shit about the 'ease' of a system they aren't even good at themselves. so that's interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fusional View Post
    if AA is so "safe" and "easy" with the directional combo system, you should be able to show me parses of you doing elite damage on boss mobs, right? and the majority of other players in the community should be able to match that elite damage, since it's so easy, right? right?

    a lot of people talk shit about the 'ease' of a system they aren't even good at themselves. so that's interesting.
    I don't even know when anyone said easy >.> it's a safe system to implement. It's safe because they know it will work, it's defiantly not the best system(AA that is), but it works, people are used to it. I would like you to show me parser of mass damage on every class with the old system >.> if you are going to say that. Come on now, that's a silly argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fusional View Post
    if AA is so "safe" and "easy" with the directional combo system, you should be able to show me parses of you doing elite damage on boss mobs, right? and the majority of other players in the community should be able to match that elite damage, since it's so easy, right? right?

    a lot of people talk shit about the 'ease' of a system they aren't even good at themselves. so that's interesting.
    SS or it didn't happen. Stop assuming everyone is bad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fusional View Post
    if AA is so "safe" and "easy" with the directional combo system, you should be able to show me parses of you doing elite damage on boss mobs, right? and the majority of other players in the community should be able to match that elite damage, since it's so easy, right? right?

    a lot of people talk shit about the 'ease' of a system they aren't even good at themselves. so that's interesting.
    This. And just out of curiosity wtf is that sig? lmfao
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    Quote Originally Posted by fusional View Post
    if AA is so "safe" and "easy" with the directional combo system, you should be able to show me parses of you doing elite damage on boss mobs, right? and the majority of other players in the community should be able to match that elite damage, since it's so easy, right? right?

    a lot of people talk shit about the 'ease' of a system they aren't even good at themselves. so that's interesting.
    2nd this. I'm sure everyone talking about how easy auto attack is has beaten all the *looks at profiles* some of the content...

    Gripe all you want, your not getting manual attacks back people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destain View Post
    2nd this. I'm sure everyone talking about how easy auto attack is has beaten all the *looks at profiles* some of the content...

    Gripe all you want, your not getting manual attacks back people.
    What are you guys even getting at with this easy AA crap.... I don't even....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destain View Post
    2nd this. I'm sure everyone talking about how easy auto attack is has beaten all the *looks at profiles* some of the content...

    Gripe all you want, your not getting manual attacks back people.
    lol wut? People actually want manual attacks back? Do those people only play games with bad design because said bad design makes the game harder?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astorlok View Post
    lol wut? People actually want manual attacks back? Do those people only play games with bad design because said bad design makes the game harder?
    Where the frick are you guys getting this harder/easier crap, seriously I would love to know!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    Where the frick are you guys getting this harder/easier crap, seriously I would love to know!
    I think they say it because most of your posts involve making the game "harder", less intuitive or less friendly. I am not stating an opinion one way or the other, just saying that is probably where the assumption comes from.

    Also I have to say I don't mind AA at all. I actually always thought it would be cool to play a console RPG with a battle system MMO-hotbar-style. Like you still go into a turn-based battle kind of grid, but your character auto-attacks and can use moves off a bar...if this makes sense to anyone...

    I suppose both systems are sort of the same, in the end. Which I guess explains why I like it. I'm looking for more of an RPG feel than FPS. Besides, I think the Primal battles show pretty clearly that battles can be "action oriented" and have good strategy, with AA.


    *edit* ooo 100 posts!
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