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  1. #21
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    DivineP's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by theunhappypotato View Post
    i usually do a ready check if one person isnt readying up i mostly pull or get a drink, idk why 22 people should wait for 1 person imho every cutscene in fights should be after we're done with it
    Not like you sign up for a TIMER of 120 minutes.

    You may want to rush but not everyone does. Maybe they should add a "Just screw the newcomer, weve seen it." instead? Let ppl vote on that instead?

    I just think it's disrespectful not waiting for a new comer that is new to a raid watch a cutscene that is essentially a full run through with a intro to the last boss. Especially if it's the FF11 raid with FF11 players who have DECADES on you playing MMOS and want to see the differences between FF11 and FF14.

    Don't even get me started on the references between content and past FF games and fans alike. Some ppl like to watch their updated visuals E.G a chimera from FF1+ and the one in Cutters Cry.

    FF14 is mostly based from past games like FF11, Nier, Ivalice etc

    Bit selfish you just want to speed run while they would like to experience everything even though it's NOT day 1.

    I'm sure 30 seconds won't hurt your selfish life so someone can experience something you either watched or don't care about.

    A barrier is needed for selfish ppl like this. Pathetic.
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  3. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    Castrum Meridianum, Praetorium, and Porta Decumana were supposed to serve as a warning, but I guess some people refused to get the memo.
    Well those themselves are special cases, there is a reason we do not see as many cutscenes in MSQ duties anymore. The only big maybe they might consider is Crystal Tower because it's mandatory, but even then the stuff you learn in there most casual players will have forgotten about by the time it's relevant to the story again.
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    Wow... So many people admitting they are toxic bullies in this thread alone...
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    Kazzy Delazzy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leathium View Post
    Some people have a job and limited time to play games so when I'm home, I want to do my roulettes, I don't care for the extra 5000 gil, or the extra 10 poetic tomes.
    If your life is so busy that you can't take into consideration the other people also playing this online multiplayer game, then I'd suggest you get a new hobby.
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  6. #25
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    The real answer is to just not have a cutscene before every final boss that basically amounts to the boss “appearing and growling”

    Like eldernarch’s more important cutscene is in the middle anyway
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    This is an incredibly old issue that's been around since the games beginnings and guess what, it's still here. The devs don't care enough to place easy fixes. They can make cutscenes mandatory if they wanted, but don't. The only places they do is the two dungeons (the trial doesn't have any that everyone is subjected to) at the end of ARR and that's because they're 20 to 45 friggin' minutes long. Either they were skippable so people would do them, or they weren't and the rewards had to be inflated so much to lure people back in.

    Zoning into a place has the barrier refuse to go down until everyone is out of the cutscene, so it's definitely possible for them to had other barriers work this way, though there's been weird times where the opening barrier takes about 5 minutes to go down because of a bug or someone DCing during the zone-in. I've also had the barrier at the start of Labyrinth of the Ancients refuse to go down before, just period.

    Personally, I'd just rather cutscenes not exist during the gameplay portion of the duty. If you want the content to be repeated constantly make it friendly to everyone involved. Once you design it to be a chore I just do for daily or weekly rewards my participation should only be a benefit, not a hindrance because I've done this thing hundreds if not thousands of times.

    I personally hate queueing for Alliance Roulette because it gets Crystal Tower so frequently. I hate being LV50 because job kits are so awful and ungodly boring at that level, CT is the oldest, most outdated alliance raid series there is and I was there when it launched making it one of the most done group content in my library to date.

    I'm not going to wait for anyone to watch anything in CT and you can bet I'm not alone. If I don't instantly pull there, someone else will and if it's not a tank it's probably a healer. In newer stuff I do the usual ready check, see if there's any instant X's because if you're in a cutscene it automatically declines the check. If you're "faded out because you're too far away" but haven't declined or acknowledged the ready check, you're not in a cutscene and I don't have to wait for you. If I ready check, and there's no X's, I pull.
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  8. #27
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    Wouldn't surprise me if they just put the barrier before the final boss just like when you que in for an alliance raid. Nobody gets to leave or press forward till everyone is out of cutscene.
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    Saraide Derosa
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    They put the important cutscene into the fight now anyway. The useless intro for the final boss of the dungeon is pretty much just a "we've always done it like this and we are SE so we can never change" at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

  10. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineP View Post
    Not like you sign up for a TIMER of 120 minutes.

    You may want to rush but not everyone does. Maybe they should add a "Just screw the newcomer, weve seen it." instead? Let ppl vote on that instead?

    I just think it's disrespectful not waiting for a new comer that is new to a raid watch a cutscene that is essentially a full run through with a intro to the last boss. Especially if it's the FF11 raid with FF11 players who have DECADES on you playing MMOS and want to see the differences between FF11 and FF14.

    Don't even get me started on the references between content and past FF games and fans alike. Some ppl like to watch their updated visuals E.G a chimera from FF1+ and the one in Cutters Cry.

    FF14 is mostly based from past games like FF11, Nier, Ivalice etc

    Bit selfish you just want to speed run while they would like to experience everything even though it's NOT day 1.

    I'm sure 30 seconds won't hurt your selfish life so someone can experience something you either watched or don't care about.

    A barrier is needed for selfish ppl like this. Pathetic.
    i think its also selfish to let 23 other peopel wait cause there is a cutscene
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  11. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by theunhappypotato View Post
    i think its also selfish to let 23 other peopel wait cause there is a cutscene
    Have the cutscene ever been more than like. A minute long at most for raids? Is it truly unfair for people to wait 1 extra minute to let others enjoy the story?
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