Limit housing bids for FCs

[s32ialx]

Modding didn't go away. People weren't banned for using Mare, and mods themselves are still being used across the game. What got shut down was the ability to sync those mods with friends in real time. Mare was an opt-in tool used mostly in private RP and social spaces to share visual mods and enhance immersion. It wasn't harming gameplay or violating anyone's privacy.

Meanwhile, bots continue to run for weeks, and stalker tools like PlayerScope still exist in private circles. Square Enix chose to target the least harmful part of the modding scene while ignoring the tools that actually disrupt gameplay and invade player privacy.

To make it worse, the Mare devs had banned predators and bad actors from their service. Those same people forked Mare and created LSync, also known as Lopsync or LoporritSync, which is still active. So the worst actors got to keep their tools, while the rest of them who just wanted to have fun with friends got punished.

Now please get the f back on topic

[Divinemights]

oh are you back and flapping your AI mouth?

LMAO, still on your little crusade built on entitlement?
I’m done entertaining your clownfest in the other thread as every points I made has already been proven.
Now I just just sitting back and watching the your little show.
Honestly, I can't stop laughing watching you run around attacking anyone who doesn’t agree with you.

1-2-5 man FC's first off you need a minimum of 4 members to bid so those 1 -2 -3 man FC's can't even bid

TL;DR Finished Large Plot's yard and working on inner

[Divinemights]

Modding didn't go away. People weren't banned for using Mare, and mods themselves are still being used across the game. What got shut down was the ability to sync those mods with friends in real time. Mare was an opt-in tool used mostly in private RP and social spaces to share visual mods and enhance immersion. It wasn't harming gameplay or violating anyone's privacy.

Meanwhile, bots continue to run for weeks, and stalker tools like PlayerScope still exist in private circles. Square Enix chose to target the least harmful part of the modding scene while ignoring the tools that actually disrupt gameplay and invade player privacy.

To make it worse, the Mare devs had banned predators and bad actors from their service. Those same people forked Mare and created LSync, also known as Lopsync or LoporritSync, which is still active. So the worst actors got to keep their tools, while the rest of them who just wanted to have fun with friends got punished.

Now please get the f back on topic

Get a hold of yourself.
No one here is attacking mods.
He was just poking fun at the people running venues through FFXIV housing
Especially the ones loudly claiming they’re going to quit over this.
You seriously need to address this issue of taking other people's statement into whole different direction
Want to defend Mare?
There are two active threads in the General forum for that.
You’re in the wrong place.

[JoyfulSong]

1-2-5 man FC's first off you need a minimum of 4 members to bid so those 1 -2 -3 man FC's can't even bid.

1: Way to ignore every other aspect of every other thing I said in that post, you're a real magician.
2: You realize you can kick people OUT of the FC and they still have the plot, right?

[Ayan_Calvesse]

Well...consider that 8.0 would technically be a housing expansion.

[Burmecia]

Unnecessary.
Private buyers win mansions from under the shadow of FCs' bidder hordes all the time.
Housing, ever the forgotten pvp mode of ff14.

[Toutatis]

1-2-5 man FC's first off you need a minimum of 4 members to bid so those 1 -2 -3 man FC's can't even bid.

4 members which can be 4 characters from the same account and not 4 distinct accounts. All that is needed is a friend or a temporary 2nd account to invite alts.

SE would avoid a lot of that BS and ease the demand if they allowed the sharing of private houses with alts and added a chest to share things. It's possible to have complete strangers as tenants but not alts which is stupid.

The only way to share between alts is by making an fc which also comes with additional perks, especially if you get a house (fc chest which is in itself a desirable feature even without a house; workshops if people care about that; GC bonuses; quick, direct and cheap travel to access to vendors, retainers, armoire, aesthetician, menders, gardening for all, lutilities with bonuses for leveling DoH; market board without crowd noise as well as - for fans of decorating - fc rooms without the risk of someone kicking people out, etc. )

[BloodiedTongues]

So my FC is at gil cap. We're actually about to be there twice, out of sheer spite, because we keep losing bids. We've got a lot of omnicrafters. We've worked hard to earn this gil, and we've been hyper-vigilant about bidding on FC only plots in hopes of grabbing up a plot and freeing up our current one for someone to use. We're 40-60 people, depending on how badly Square Enix decides to make their expansions. There have been points where we've bid on FC exclusive plots (we won't bid on personal/FC combos out of principle–) with 25-30 tickets and STILL SOMEHOW LOST to Suzy Subs-a-lot and her 5 man FC (mostly made of the world's most obvious alts.) Months will go by and nothing will be done with the plot, time passes, and those of us playing the game through massive content droughts get to watch the whole thing rot.

I commend you for being at Gil Cap. I don't deny the effort you and your FC have put into trying to get a plot, but it proves my point with what you've said. I think it's disheartening from both sides. If you're people who've put in the effort to get a house, whether it's large or small, I still think limiting it to 1-2 people per FC would give people a fair chance to get it.

At what point are big, active FCs supposed to cater to someone who grabbed a bunch of their alts and decided to make a group just to bid on a large that's mostly empty to begin with? How is that fair to the people who've put in the effort? Why punish bigger groups of people just because you can't get the numbers out to place more bids?

Even if it is an FC comprised of only alts, they can still sway the overall unfair bid. I don't condone alt-based FCs behaving like this either, because it still counts towards swaying a bid.

There are people out there with 1 man, 2 man, 5 man FCs and you're out here pointing blame at people with the time, effort, and money to place multiple bids? You're ON MATEUS – I know you know about Main Ward 12 of the Goblet – and here you are pointing the finger at people who have put in significant effort to get the resources needed to put out multiple bids?

And you're saying that smaller FCs haven't put in significant effort to get the Gil they need to bid either? Yes, I am on Mateus, as are you, and we regrettably both have to fight tooth and nail to get a plot. I also don't understand the reference to the Goblet, nor do I really think it was a necessary inclusion. Regardless, you can have two people or forty people who've worked for the Gil; they want to bid for a house, but just swaying a bid feels gross on either end. It can be disheartening if you're a big FC to lose a spot to a smaller one, but it is also equally disheartening if you're a small FC that's put in the effort equally as much just to see a veritable flood of people who already own an FC house to claim it

[NanaWiloh]

2 or 40 people don't really matter cause as bidders stack up your odds drop like dead flies. If you are chasing a large or Medium your begging for disappointment has they are always going to have the highest number of bidders.

[Crafoutis]

So my FC is at gil cap. We're actually about to be there twice, out of sheer spite, because we keep losing bids.

At gil cap, you could recruit an awful lot of people to put in an awful lot of bits for your FC.