Housing is the biggest load of crap

[Solowing]

Totally worth it, if you wanna stay neutral stay neutral don't assume.

Youre caught up on language, and trying to police it. I don't really care what you are. If I misgendered you I am sorry. But im likely going to make that mistake in the future as I use him as just a default all compassing term. Like calling you "Bro". Doesn't really matter if youre male or female its kinda a all encompassing word.for like referring to "you" regardless of the gender, gender orientation, or gender identity.

But for your statement of the housing system is broken. If it works exactly how they're intending it to is it really broken? Again, 100% agree with you.They need to be more wards and increasing in items slots multiple layout and all those goodies.

But the way I see how it's going to get fixed is more top down. As imo i feel the apartment should be the entry level of housing. You give the plots the layout options, then increase the size of apt to small interior. You push the plots forward and increase the minimum standard for apts without infringing on the plots.

That would be an improvement to apt standards while still having the plots be more appealing. It is improving the system but in a different direction then your idea and doesnt require a system teardown. It's been clear to me for a very long time getting a plot is just another carrot on a stick that contains a hook built from your own investment in it.

This is just how the system seems presented as to me.

I'm not necessarily defending the system I'm asking you.Why would they want to change it?

Let's hypothetically say they did switch over to instanced. Do you not think there will be any ramifications for doing so? Venues might be a thing of the past, if everything's instance you're gonna need to find a way to locate somebodys plot. Will it be friends list limited? Do you have to be online for it to appear? I like waltzing in random people's plots from time to time and I cant do that in a instanced system. And id rather not lose that aspect. (Im defending the ward system here)

When its swapped over to instanced, you think they are just going to let the income evaporate? I think your idea is genuine and had good intentions. But the snorefest of a instance system that actually makes socialization events more difficult isnt something I want.

I'm not trying to stop you from getting a plot.Actually i'm trying to encourage you to get one. It's not gatekeeping, its enjoying a particular facet of having a neighborhood and a semi permanent location that is baked into the game. You feel apart of the game in a sense. And that is something that their hardware seems like it cant keep up with yet. But do I think the system should be scrapped because of that? No.

I see the sparks of what Yoshida was trying to do with my nearby fcs. But it's up to the players to make that work. The players need to have as much interest as those in this thread. However for the general playerbase, housing isnt as high on their priority list. The wards are an indication of that. A word for housing enthusiast , owners hangouts , and people who just like being there. The housing system would be lit!

But no, you end up with usually.Players who purchase these plots, decorate them, and move onto other content. And come back to maintain that investment until they don't.

So you have empty words but active players. Usually hanging out in limsa or the hubs. Which is why I say the housing wards situation is a reflection of player priority

If you really want to send him a message decorate whatever you can get your hands on. Don't say what you want show what you want. If apartments were maxed out, and decorated they couldnt ignore the message the players are sending. Rather then player requests may say one thing, but player activity towards it says another.

[Catwho]

I understand your frustration, I really do. Everyone who has a house has had to go through the lottery system or worse to get what they have, and countless others have given up in the process. I hope you get a plot you really like soon, don't give up.

The lottery WAS the improvement because the "worse" was standing in front of the placard for 12 hours straight and hoping you didn't lose to someone botting their clicks.

(I think I'm the only person in the entire game who never had to fight for a house on my main character. My FC got a large from the very first wave, I got my personal small when someone abandoned one in Goblet, and I upgraded it to a medium when Kugane opened and people moved out of that same Goblet neighborhood. In the latter case, I was polite and waited a full day in case an FC wanted that medium.... nope! It stayed empty all day because nobody likes Goblet.)

However, I have an alt on another data center, and the FC that alt was in on Goblin went through the lottery pain. We didn't win a house until they turned demolitions back on. That was about 4 months of bidding from 20 or so desperate characters. One time we lost to another FC with only 4 bidders - because we were bidding in an FC only ward that time. Every other time we lost to someone who was bidding on the house as an individual, and RNG hated us.

[s32ialx]

Youre caught up on language, and trying to police it. I don't really care what you are. If I misgendered you I am sorry. But im likely going to make that mistake in the future as I use him as just a default all compassing term. Like calling you "Bro". Doesn't really matter if youre male or female its kinda a all encompassing word.for like referring to "you" regardless of the gender, gender orientation, or gender identity.

Strange you used they/them for every other post until that one.

[Kahnha]

They reall just need to add more wards maybe like 2x the sub divisions this should be easy to do ; u ;

my heart is out to you guys (got my medium right before 7.3 I was really happy with the spot and everything)

[Yuniko]

They reall just need to add more wards maybe like 2x the sub divisions this should be easy to do ; u ;

my heart is out to you guys (got my medium right before 7.3 I was really happy with the spot and everything)

Thank you hun!

And i'm glad you got your Medium! <3 I hope you'll enjoy it a lot!

And sadly, RNG isn't that kind to some of us T_T

But oh well!

[Divinemights]

You keep insisting your tone is "natural and professional", yet you've repeatedly mocked my understanding, questioned my age, and now you're trivializing my credentials as if they're imaginary. That's not professionalism, it's passive dismissal.

This isn't about being the "Queen of the Universe”. It's about being a paying player with valid concerns, just like thousands of others who've voiced similar frustrations. You can reduce this to "forum avatars” if it helps you sleep at night, but behind every post is a real person investing time, money, and energy into a game they care about.

And no, I'm not enraged because your opinion doesn't fit my narrative. I'm frustrated because you keep dodging the actual issue: the housing system is broken for a large portion of the player base. You've benefited from it, and that's great for you. But dismissing the struggles of others as emotional or invalid just because they challenge your comfort zone? That's not grounded observation. That's selective empathy.

My tone has adjusted to your attitude
Yes, I’ve gotten a bit punchy, but I’ve still kept things civil and mannered.
That’s only because you’ve been rude from the very beginning.

I haven’t dodged anything.
You may consider the Ward system flawed, but I actually like it.
I was happy when they introduced FC rooms back when Ward plots were FC-only.
I was even happier when they later allowed Ward plots for personal ownership.
And when apartments were added as an option, that was music to my ears.

From the start, you’ve made a false assumption that I’m defending SE and immediately labeled me a “white knight.”
The truth is: not everyone cares about plot size.
A larger plot is nice to have, but it’s not a necessity.
I’m practical, and my patience and judgment have been rewarded.

As for your little game with pronouns, I’m not interested.
It’s a double-edged sword anyway; didn’t you also assume my gender?
That’s just how English writing works.
Haven’t we always referred to ships as “her” since forever?

[s32ialx]

My tone has adjusted to your attitude
Yes, I’ve gotten a bit punchy, but I’ve still kept things civil and mannered.
That’s only because you’ve been rude from the very beginning.

I haven’t dodged anything.
You may consider the Ward system flawed, but I actually like it.
I was happy when they introduced FC rooms back when Ward plots were FC-only.
I was even happier when they later allowed Ward plots for personal ownership.
And when apartments were added as an option, that was music to my ears.

From the start, you’ve made a false assumption that I’m defending SE and immediately labeled me a “white knight.”
The truth is: not everyone cares about plot size.
A larger plot is nice to have, but it’s not a necessity.
I’m practical, and my patience and judgment have been rewarded.

As for your little game with pronouns, I’m not interested.
It’s a double-edged sword anyway; didn’t you also assume my gender?
That’s just how English writing works.
Haven’t we always referred to ships as “her” since forever?

You were the one who first introduced judgmental language, telling me I was "arguing for the sake of arguing", that I needed to "run before I could walk", and that "greed gets you nowhere". That’s not civil discourse. That’s moralizing and gatekeeping. My original point was simple: players shouldn’t be forced to settle for housing they don’t want, especially after investing time and gil. You responded by implying their desires were invalid and their priorities were wrong. That’s what started this tone shift, not me.

You say you like the ward system, apartments, and FC rooms. That’s fine. But liking something personally doesn’t make it universally effective. The fact that small plots go unclaimed while mediums and larges are flooded with bids is data, not narrative. It shows a mismatch between supply and demand, something any business-minded person should recognize.

Let's be real, this conversation stopped being "civil" the moment gender assumptions entered the mix. You were using They/Them just fine until suddenly I became "him". That shift wasn't accidental, and it wasn't neutral. It was part of a broader pattern of dismissiveness that's been present since the beginning. I didn't "bring it up", you misgendered me, and I corrected you. That's not playing a game, that's asserting basic respect. If you're apologizing, fine, but don't act like I derailed the conversation by pointing out something you did. And dragging ships into it to justify the slip? That's not just irrelevant, it's deflective.

Your experience and success in the system are valid, sure. But that doesn't give you the right to dismiss others' frustration or label it as emotional. People are allowed to be upset when a system fails them, and calling that misguided is exactly the kind of gatekeeping that shuts down real discussion.

This isn't about winning. It's about being heard. And if you can't handle that without resorting to ego, assumptions, and revisionist history, then maybe it's time to ask yourself why you're really here. If you’re truly interested in dialogue, start by acknowledging that other players’ experiences are just as real as your own.

[ShadowyZero]

LOL they still keep coming back here to stir the pot at this point i really do hope they add housing for all so that these two can have the biggest mald/crashout for us to witness when they were proven wrong XD

[Divinemights]

This isn't about winning. It's about being heard. And if you can't handle that without resorting to ego, assumptions, and revisionist history, then maybe it's time to ask yourself why you're really here. If you’re truly interested in dialogue, start by acknowledging that other players’ experiences are just as real as your own.

I’m busy decorating, did you actually say something different?
Here’s your own post below:

Or people want more space than a small. Because the two floors on a small are not even equally sized let alone limited to only 200 slots
among a plethora of other reasons why smalls just should not exist like how excruciatingly small the outside is and how much more limited the slots are on the outside.
You really have no right to tell people that they have to settle on a small and because they don't settle for a small their opinion, wants, needs are invalid.

I’m quite certain my first post never told anyone what to do—yet you immediately tried to shut me down.
That’s the only reason I asked whether you’re arguing just for the sake of arguing.
Get your facts straight.

At this point, whatever you say is irrelevant.
My points have already been made, and I’ve shown that being practical is the better approach.
I’m getting what I want and this week a few mid plots became available, and I’ll also be working toward upgrading my other small.

On the other hand, you’ve achieved your own goal: gathering a couple of voices that simply echo your stance.
One hides behind pretending to be “cute,” while another makes empty posts with no substance.
But you’ve clearly forgotten one critical aspect of forums: a thread dies quickly when it’s filled with only one-sided voices.
This isn’t the first time a topic like this has come up in the housing forum.
Congratulations—you’ve achieved nothing and managed to kill the thread instead.

As for me, I’ll be busy decorating and preparing for my usual slaughter in Secure.
Once again: my points have been made, and they’ve been proven.

[Solowing]

This isn't about winning. It's about being heard. And if you can't handle that without resorting to ego, assumptions, and revisionist history, then maybe it's time to ask yourself why you're really here. If you’re truly interested in dialogue, start by acknowledging that other players’ experiences are just as real as your own.

Now, what if hypothetically?They hear you but disagree with you? Given that they doubled down on the ward system.

What if for years they've been quietly saying an instant system is not the direction they want to go

would you simply double down on your own position anyway?