Housing is the biggest load of crap

[s32ialx]

My tone has adjusted to your attitude
Yes, I’ve gotten a bit punchy, but I’ve still kept things civil and mannered.
That’s only because you’ve been rude from the very beginning.

I haven’t dodged anything.
You may consider the Ward system flawed, but I actually like it.
I was happy when they introduced FC rooms back when Ward plots were FC-only.
I was even happier when they later allowed Ward plots for personal ownership.
And when apartments were added as an option, that was music to my ears.

From the start, you’ve made a false assumption that I’m defending SE and immediately labeled me a “white knight.”
The truth is: not everyone cares about plot size.
A larger plot is nice to have, but it’s not a necessity.
I’m practical, and my patience and judgment have been rewarded.

As for your little game with pronouns, I’m not interested.
It’s a double-edged sword anyway; didn’t you also assume my gender?
That’s just how English writing works.
Haven’t we always referred to ships as “her” since forever?

You were the one who first introduced judgmental language, telling me I was "arguing for the sake of arguing", that I needed to "run before I could walk", and that "greed gets you nowhere". That’s not civil discourse. That’s moralizing and gatekeeping. My original point was simple: players shouldn’t be forced to settle for housing they don’t want, especially after investing time and gil. You responded by implying their desires were invalid and their priorities were wrong. That’s what started this tone shift, not me.

You say you like the ward system, apartments, and FC rooms. That’s fine. But liking something personally doesn’t make it universally effective. The fact that small plots go unclaimed while mediums and larges are flooded with bids is data, not narrative. It shows a mismatch between supply and demand, something any business-minded person should recognize.

Let's be real, this conversation stopped being "civil" the moment gender assumptions entered the mix. You were using They/Them just fine until suddenly I became "him". That shift wasn't accidental, and it wasn't neutral. It was part of a broader pattern of dismissiveness that's been present since the beginning. I didn't "bring it up", you misgendered me, and I corrected you. That's not playing a game, that's asserting basic respect. If you're apologizing, fine, but don't act like I derailed the conversation by pointing out something you did. And dragging ships into it to justify the slip? That's not just irrelevant, it's deflective.

Your experience and success in the system are valid, sure. But that doesn't give you the right to dismiss others' frustration or label it as emotional. People are allowed to be upset when a system fails them, and calling that misguided is exactly the kind of gatekeeping that shuts down real discussion.

This isn't about winning. It's about being heard. And if you can't handle that without resorting to ego, assumptions, and revisionist history, then maybe it's time to ask yourself why you're really here. If you’re truly interested in dialogue, start by acknowledging that other players’ experiences are just as real as your own.

[Divinemights]

This isn't about winning. It's about being heard. And if you can't handle that without resorting to ego, assumptions, and revisionist history, then maybe it's time to ask yourself why you're really here. If you’re truly interested in dialogue, start by acknowledging that other players’ experiences are just as real as your own.

I’m busy decorating, did you actually say something different?
Here’s your own post below:

Or people want more space than a small. Because the two floors on a small are not even equally sized let alone limited to only 200 slots
among a plethora of other reasons why smalls just should not exist like how excruciatingly small the outside is and how much more limited the slots are on the outside.
You really have no right to tell people that they have to settle on a small and because they don't settle for a small their opinion, wants, needs are invalid.

I’m quite certain my first post never told anyone what to do—yet you immediately tried to shut me down.
That’s the only reason I asked whether you’re arguing just for the sake of arguing.
Get your facts straight.

At this point, whatever you say is irrelevant.
My points have already been made, and I’ve shown that being practical is the better approach.
I’m getting what I want and this week a few mid plots became available, and I’ll also be working toward upgrading my other small.

On the other hand, you’ve achieved your own goal: gathering a couple of voices that simply echo your stance.
One hides behind pretending to be “cute,” while another makes empty posts with no substance.
But you’ve clearly forgotten one critical aspect of forums: a thread dies quickly when it’s filled with only one-sided voices.
This isn’t the first time a topic like this has come up in the housing forum.
Congratulations—you’ve achieved nothing and managed to kill the thread instead.

As for me, I’ll be busy decorating and preparing for my usual slaughter in Secure.
Once again: my points have been made, and they’ve been proven.

[s32ialx]

I’m busy decorating, did you actually say something different?

I’m quite certain my first post never told anyone what to do—yet you immediately tried to shut me down.
That’s the only reason I asked whether you’re arguing just for the sake of arguing.
Get your facts straight.

At this point, whatever you say is irrelevant.
My points have already been made, and I’ve shown that being practical is the better approach.
I’m getting what I want and this week a few mid plots became available, and I’ll also be working toward upgrading my other small.

On the other hand, you’ve achieved your own goal: gathering a couple of voices that simply echo your stance.
One hides behind pretending to be “cute,” while another makes empty posts with no substance.
But you’ve clearly forgotten one critical aspect of forums: a thread dies quickly when it’s filled with only one-sided voices.
This isn’t the first time a topic like this has come up in the housing forum.
Congratulations—you’ve achieved nothing and managed to kill the thread instead.

As for me, I’ll be busy decorating and preparing for my usual slaughter in Secure.
Once again: my points have been made, and they’ve been proven.

You keep saying your points have been "proven", but repeating them louder doesn't make them universally true. You've benefited from a system that many players find exclusionary and frustrating. That's not proof of its success, it's proof of its inconsistency.

You quoted my original post as if it were some kind of gotcha, but all it did was highlight that I challenged your implication that players should settle for smalls. That's not shutting you down, it's disagreeing with your framing. Forums are for discussion, not deference.

As for your claim that I've "killed the thread", that's rich. Threads die when people stop engaging meaningfully, not when they challenge flawed systems. If anything, the fact that this thread has drawn multiple voices and perspectives shows that the issue resonates. You may not like that, but it doesn't make it irrelevant.

And while you decorate your large plot, just remember: not everyone has the luxury of bidding across multiple accounts, winning lotteries, and upgrading at will. Many players are still stuck in the cycle you've conveniently escaped, and they deserve better than condescension and dismissal.

You've made your stance clear. So have I. The difference is, I'm advocating for change that benefits everyone, not just those lucky enough to win.

Enjoy your plot. I'll keep speaking for the players still waiting for theirs.

[Solowing]

This isn't about winning. It's about being heard. And if you can't handle that without resorting to ego, assumptions, and revisionist history, then maybe it's time to ask yourself why you're really here. If you’re truly interested in dialogue, start by acknowledging that other players’ experiences are just as real as your own.

Now, what if hypothetically?They hear you but disagree with you? Given that they doubled down on the ward system.

What if for years they've been quietly saying an instant system is not the direction they want to go

would you simply double down on your own position anyway?